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  • #91
    Originally posted by Horus View Post
    the key word i got out of this post was "Advantage". and I address this in my post.

    let i said before,

    Why after all these years of tolerating and accepting the commission drug testing rules has the Mayweather decided that now is the time to deal with steroid and ped‘s usage in boxing?

    Here is the answer.

    The threat is real.

    1. The quest for an Advantage

    As the effects of Steroids & PED's continued to be debated, One outcome that the history of PED's and Steroids in sports today has given us is that as long as the REWARD out weigh the RISK in terms of taking and using Steroids & PED's versus the punishment.

    They are going to be people who take them to get the advantage.
    Having the advantage in professional sports is close to a unmeasurable variable that can only be weigh by it's risk/reward benefit.


    *This is why you see, athletes working out and preparing in the OFF-season when they should be resting and recovering from the regular and post season. TO GET A ADVANTAGE

    *This is why you see, athletes battles the elements of high altitudes, cold winds, hot temperatures, and etc. TO GET A ADVANTAGE

    *This is why you see, athletes separate themselves from their spouses and children during intense training because for them they need all the focus they can get in order TO GET A ADVANTAGE

    TO GET A ADVANTAGE is how drugs like steroids and PED's, creeps into the equation. Although the users out there whose intent maybe harmless, the ramifications
    however of their actions in some cases are criminal.
    I thought this discussion was about why improved drug testing is being talked about right now. The simple answer is that one of the two most high profile fighters in the sport has asked for it in order to gain a psychological advantage over an opponent he rightly considers a threat, not because he in on a crusade to clean up the sport. Mayweather is dressing his quest for an advantage up as some sort of campaign and Pacquiao is probably unwilling to play ball based on principle and a bad experience in the past with random testing. Of course, a cynic would say that he is unwilling to play ball because he actually is on PEDs, but as there is absolutely no evidence supporting this conclusion at the current time, it is improbable. Especially considering that the main accuser believes Pacquiao to be on a semi-mythical and superstitious placebo.

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    • #92
      why does this ******* think he's something special and continue to bump his threads until people give a damn?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by horus View Post
        circumstantial evidence
        • head got bigger just like bonds, mccgwire, etc
        • increase his speed and power as he moved up in weight in a span of 2 years.
        • knock out ratio went up as he went up in weigh and as he got older instead of going down
        • turned down 40 million dollars, with 5 different explanations none which made sense.
        • sued mayweather, but not cintron, campbell, paulie, and others
        • etc.


        that is just some of the circumstantial evidence that have me questioning the pacman usage of ped's.

        Like i said before we do not have no evidence that he has taken ped's because he has never taken a test that could detect ped's.
        Once again there is no edvidence that manny is juicing, except for circumstantial evidence. Which in any court in america if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.


        I do not understand throwing anyway 40 millions dollars because of a random drug test.


        So imo, pacquiao has done this to himself, not floyd,not me, and not others who now have questions about his career.

        vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

        Originally posted by dontasemebrah View Post
        as if a asian person is incapable of getting a cut ripped body.

        Racist much?

        3-15-2008 vs marquez (130lbs)


        10-6-2007 vs barerra 2 (130lbs)



        3-19-2005 vs morales 1(130lbs)



        this is at featherweight (not sure which fight i think vs mab 1 or marquez 1 either 2003 or 2004)


        there is some serious racism going on in regards to pac's ascension to 1# p4p status & all that goes with it. They are all shocked at how a short asian guy was able to take punches from a welterweight.


        Ask paulie malignaggi, if he couldnt beat cotto & hatton, no way in hell a asian guy does it. If he got hurt (as if he is the barometer for pain tolerance & chin resistance for non steroid use) but some short lower weight fighter didnt, its illegitimate.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by carts View Post
          stop crying until the commission made OST the official WAY of drug testing for Boxers until then this is BS!
          which commission?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
            6-28-2008 vs diaz 135 lbs



            12-6-2008 vs oscar 147 lbs



            5-2-2009 vs hatton 140 lbs

            this **** is ridiculous................

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            • #96
              Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
              Where is the proof hes innocent?
              This is what you get when you argue with Burner. This is the worst post in NSB. Ever.

              Let me repeat it again.

              Where is the proof hes innocent?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
                9-10-2005 vs velasquez 130lbs


                11-14-2009 vs cotto 145lbs (30 years old)
                ..............................................

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Horus View Post
                  which commission?
                  dont be dumb.. you dont know NSAC???

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
                    pac vs oscar 2008

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                    pac vs hatton 2009

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                    pac vs cotto 2009

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                    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=343902

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                    • Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      Really?

                      is this your response to my thread about "why now".
                      You could not challenge yourself intellectually to combat my argument with one of your OWN??/

                      instead you reply with insults and name calling, spray_resistant you are real close to getting on my ignore list. for reason of not adding anything to the discussion. I at least respect JACK,DONTtashmebruh, and the other pac fans who try and debate their reasoning instead of waving the white flag and start name calling..

                      grow up dude.
                      You are overrating your own intellect, copying and pasting does not make you smart or scholarly.....true story.

                      Here is another true story for you, Floyd saw the beating Cotto received knew in his heart of hearts that he couldn't inflict anywhere near the amount of damage on such a very good and world class fighter so he found a way out without blatantly seeming like he was.

                      Stop the bs and accept that this is what happened, the fact that you are so obsessed with what one guy does and keep spamming the boards with nonsense always related to him proves how easily amused and dull witted you are.

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