HORUS PRESENTS: WHY NoW???

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  • shogunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by Horus
    Manny also said he would take the test as long as it is not right before the fight...

    What happen to him living up to his word on that?
    should i post the video?
    yeah, post the video, cuz I have no ****in idea what youre talking about

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    • shadeyfizzle
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      #52
      Originally posted by shogunn
      yeah, post the video, cuz I have no ****in idea what youre talking about


      Pac took a test. wasnt right before the fight. no contradiction. burner's talkin out of his ass.

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      • P4P Opinion
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        #53
        Boxing as a sport certainly needs better testing. The current testing requirements are lightyears behind most other high profile professional sports. The absolute answer to 'why now?' though is that Floyd Mayweather Jr wants a psychological advantage over an opponent who is a real threat. If you seriously believe the Mayweather party line that he is interested in cleaning up the sport, then you are as gullible as a child. Mayweather is interested in himself and the advantages he can get. As a master of psychological warfare, Mayweather realises that round zero can be very important and getting Pacquiao to back down to new sanctions on the back of wild accusations gives an early advantage. I seriously doubt that Mayweather actually believes that Pacquiao uses PEDs.

        Pacquiao has every right to be offended by the accusations and feel unwilling to back down to sanctions that are not imposed upon other fighters. Pacquiao is in an impossible situation if he wishes to actually fight Mayweather. To not make the fight happen on principle raises su****ion, however unfair this su****ion may be, but to make the fight happen he gives Mayweather the early advantage unless he can be mentally strong enough to shake it off.

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        • shogunn
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          #54
          Originally posted by shadeyfizzle


          where's the contradiction???
          I think horus was talking about his home made video where he talks about manny taking a blood test seconds before the fight

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            #55
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            So there is no chance in hell that Pac is cheating. How do you know that? What supplements do Pac take? What is he taking right now?
            If you had some evidence I would say "maybe".

            But there is nothing to suggest that Pac has been cheating.

            "Beating Cotto down" is not proof.

            Horus keeps ducking me page after page.

            where ya at Horus???

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            • HandSpeed303
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              #56
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Not true. I said He could be cheating he couldnt be cheating. NO ONE KNOWS. All we have is our opinions.

              If I think hes cheating and you think hes not.

              Who's right?
              Ok..I can dig it.

              But why?

              Why do you (you) think he is on something???????

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                #57
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle


                where's the contradiction???
                Here is the contradiction:

                "Earlier this week, the two sides agreed to mediation by retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein. During the mediation, Pacquiao agreed to blood testing up to 24 days before the fight. Mayweather refused and, according to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer."


                Yet hes shown getting blood drawn for Clottey 19 days away?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                  If you had some evidence I would say "maybe".

                  But there is nothing to suggest that Pac has been cheating.

                  "Beating Cotto down" is not proof.

                  Horus keeps ducking me page after page.

                  where ya at Horus???
                  Where is the proof hes innocent?

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                  • shadeyfizzle
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by P4P Opinion
                    Boxing as a sport certainly needs better testing. The current testing requirements are lightyears behind most other high profile professional sports. The absolute answer to 'why now?' though is that Floyd Mayweather Jr wants a psychological advantage over an opponent who is a real threat. If you seriously believe the Mayweather party line that he is interested in cleaning up the sport, then you are as gullible as a child. Mayweather is interested in himself and the advantages he can get. As a master of psychological warfare, Mayweather realises that round zero can be very important and getting Pacquiao to back down to new sanctions on the back of wild accusations gives an early advantage. I seriously doubt that Mayweather actually believes that Pacquiao uses PEDs.

                    Pacquiao has every right to be offended by the accusations and feel unwilling to back down to sanctions that are not imposed upon other fighters. Pacquiao is in an impossible situation if he wishes to actually fight Mayweather. To not make the fight happen on principle raises su****ion, however unfair this su****ion may be, but to make the fight happen he gives Mayweather the early advantage unless he can be mentally strong enough to shake it off.
                    False. Combat sports; Boxing and the UFC in nevada in particular are 2 of the most stringently tested sports in the U.S.

                    In the words of UFC president Dana White: "if every sport in the US went through the same testing boxing and UFC go through....there wouldnt be football on sundays, there wouldnt be any baseball in the spring. there wouldnt be an nfl or nba."

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                    • Horus
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                      But Horus, why would you suspect Pac in the absence of any solid evidence?

                      Doing it for the sake of it sounds peachy but why single out a guy who's never tested positive for anything.

                      I train at the wildcard man, and let me tell you something, that dude trains harder than anyone I've ever seen.

                      Its not fair to single him out just cuz' he rolled through Cotto like that.

                      There will always be cheating in sports anyway. Once they implement new testing, there will be a new undetectable drug on the market.

                      Trying to get rid of peds is like trying to get rid of weed and *******.

                      It'll never happen.
                      JACK,
                      There is no edvidence that Manny is juicing, except for circumstantial evidence. Which in any court in America if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.

                      But, Out of all the questions that many people are now asking about Manny,
                      the fews question I would really like to see answered is;

                      Why sue Mayweather, and not Paulie?

                      Why turned Down 30-40 million dollars when all is required is a random test?
                      and instead fight for 8 million dollars against somebody who the public doesnt even know or care about??


                      I can understand How Pacquiao pride might be effected by the recent allegations of him using PED's. As a result I can understand him wanting to fight back by refusing to submit to any test Mayweather suggest he takes.

                      However,
                      What I do not understand is his reasons for refusing the test.
                      I do not understand his reason for sueing Mayweather but not Paulie,Cintron,Campbell. and countless others who accuse of him using PED'S.

                      I do not understand throwing anyway 40 millions dollars because of a random drug test.


                      Like I said before we do not have no evidence that he has taken PED's because he has never taken a test that could detect PED's

                      When he had the chance to prove he was not on PED'S
                      he deny the test with bogus explanations to find out if he was on PEDS.
                      Once again I dont think he is on steroids. but PEDS i have my questions.
                      simply because his refusal to take the test to that would detect PED's.


                      So IMO, Pacquiao has done this to himself, Not Floyd,Not Me, and not others who now have questions about his career.

                      There is evidence, circumstantial evidence.

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