HORUS PRESENTS: WHY NoW???

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Ask yourself, How did Marion get busted for PED's usage?

* Circumstantial evidence, not a positive test.

Ask yourself, How did Shane Mosley get busted for PED usage?

* Circumstantial evidence, not a positive test.

Ask yourself, How did Mark Mcgwire get busted for PED usage?

* Circumstantial evidence, not a positive test.

Ask yourself, How did Roger Clemens get busted for PED usage?

* Circumstantial evidence, not a positive test.


Like i said before we do not have no evidence except circumstantial that he has taken ped's because he has never taken a test that could detect ped's.

so the only evidence we have so far in the case of Manny Pacquiao is circumstantial evidence.

Which in any court in america if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.

So when you say we do not have any evidence you are wrong, we have the same amount evidence they had for Shane Mosley, and others
Circumstantial. Until Pacquiao takes a random drug test before he fights his next opponent.

marion jones got busted because she confessed & was in a trial. marion jones got busted because she was accused of victor conte of cheating. victor conte had calendars & complex training schedules of steroid use.

HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Shane mosely? shane mosley admitted to a grand jury that he took steroids. he was also being accused by victor conte the founder of balco that he gave shane steroids & KNOWINGLY TOLD shane the benefits & claimed shane knew what he was taking.

HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Mark McGwire? mcgwire is being accused by jose canseco of taking steroid use. JOse cancseco CLAIMED HE INJECTED/ SAW MCGWIRE USE STEROIDS. JOSE CANSECO IS KNOWN AS THE GODFATHER OF STEROIDS IN BASEBALL. While mcgwire was being interviewed by reporters in his locker room there was a photo of a huge steroid bottle on his locker shelf. He has confessed to using steroids.

HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANCIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Roger Clemens? Roger clemens was being accused by his own trainer of taking steroids. HE HAS BLOODY GAUZES & SYRINGES HE SAVED OF CLEMEN'S STEROID USE. CLEMENS WAS STILL DOMINATING AT 40. Pac just turned 31 & in his prime.

AGAIN HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?


I just provided you with REAL CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE of marion jones, mark mcgwire, & roger clemens.


I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PROVIDE CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR PACQUIAO.

[P4P Opinion]

Not to be a ****, but Wikipedia is the worst source of information you can site in the world you might as well quoted the urban dictionary. go find a law journal, anything credible.
Save me the Wikipedia.

Jesus Christ, here you go:

Evidence which may allow a trial judge or jury to deduce or logically infer a certain fact from other established facts, which have been proven.

EXAMPLE: Justice Best in the 1820 case, King v Burdett:

"When one or more things are proved, from which our experience enables us to ascertain that another, not proved, must have happened, we presume that it did happen, as well in criminal as in civil cases."

Source: http://duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/C...levidence.aspx

Was that really necessary? It might interest you to know actually, that Wikipedia is remarkably accurate considering the nature of its existence. I would provide you with sources for that as well, but that is a debate for the lounge.

I repeat, find me circumstantial evidence that indirectly proves the assertion that Pacquiao is on PEDs.

[Guest]

Where have I accused him? I said his behavior regarding the matter has led me to believe he could be hiding something.

And Montana could win the NCAA championship


The point is we could say a lot of things could be true.

That's what I don't like about that line of thinking.

I don't think that's fair to someone who's never even been suspected of anything until fairly recently, and not by doctors or people who actually know what peds do.

[carts]

Stop watching boxing if you Think NSAC is Flawed its simple until OST is not the Official Drug test style for NSAC this blah blah blah.. is useless!! its simple and you had followed the sport for decades how come it is what it is until now?? you claimed NSAC test is useless and yet patronizing the boxers that undergo all its test on them??? hypocrisy??? you claimed boxers are never caught in the PAST but still THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE Way NSAC tests?

why didnt floyd ask these test in the PAST if you even pointed out all THOSE PAST BOXERS ARE NOT CAUGHT??

SO THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION WHY JUST NOW!!! IF THERE ARE BOXERS THAT ARE NOT CAUGHT IN THE PAST WHY JUST NOW??? IF THERE IS REALLY A VALID REASON FOR FLOYD TO ASK FOR IT IN THE PAST??????

ANSWER:
floyd is just ducking PAC!! he doesnt give a shiet about cleaning up the sport its all BS!

[Horus]

marion jones got busted because she confessed & was in a trial. marion jones got busted because she was accused of victor conte of cheating. victor conte had calendars & complex training schedules of steroid use.

HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Shane mosely? shane mosley admitted to a grand jury that he took steroids. he was also being accused by victor conte the founder of balco that he gave shane steroids & KNOWINGLY TOLD shane the benefits & claimed shane knew what he was taking.

HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Mark McGwire? mcgwire is being accused by jose canseco of taking steroid use. JOse cancseco CLAIMED HE INJECTED/ SAW MCGWIRE USE STEROIDS. JOSE CANSECO IS KNOWN AS THE GODFATHER OF STEROIDS IN BASEBALL. While mcgwire was being interviewed by reporters in his locker room. He has confessed to using steroids.

HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANCIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?

Roger Clemens? Roger clemens was being accused by his own trainer of taking steroids. HE HAS BLOODY GAUZES & SYRINGES HE SAVED OF CLEMEN'S STEROID USE. CLEMENS WAS STILL DOMINATING AT 40. Pac just turned 31 & in his prime.

AGAIN HOW DOES THAT CLAIM RELATE TO PACQUIAO'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM?


I just provided you with REAL CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE of marion jones, mark mcgwire, & roger clemens.


I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PROVIDE CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR PACQUIAO.

Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes testimony?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes eye witness accounts?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes pattern profiles where they bring in experts to testify on behavior ?

Everything you just posted was circumstantial evidence, not hard proof!

Hard Proof: is a positive test, a dead body, etc. .
something we can touch, see, feel,and hear.

Do you understand almost everything else is circumstantial!

So once again. the only evidence we have so far in the case of Manny Pacquiao is circumstantial evidence. which can include testimony, eye witness accounts, anything, except hard evidence like a positive test.

Once again Circumstantial evidence in any court in america if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.


Come my dude, you should know this.

[tesla_power]

Where is it? Show me how Pac is innocent and PROVE it.

I'll wait.

Lolz. If you really take time to analyze it, the burden of proof lies on the accuser not the accused. Otherwise, all fighters are suspect including Pwill, Pbf, Dlh ( *the notable weight climbers).

[shogunn]

yes, why now. Coincidence a real threat is coming to floyd and now he claims he wants to "clean up boxing".

why didnt he clean up boxing pre-manny.

and why didnt he petition his cause to the NASC, or any governing body for that matter

why wasnt baldomir subjected to olympic style blood testing.

Why hasnt floyd demanded this for boxers not name floyd.

[jrosales13]

Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes testimony?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes eye witness accounts?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes pattern profiles where they bring in experts to testify on behavior ?

Everything you just posted was circumstantial evidence, not hard proof!

Hard Proof: is a positive test, a dead body, etc. .
something we can touch, see, feel,and hear.

Do you understand almost everything else is circumstantial!

So once again. the only evidence we have so far in the case of Manny Pacquiao is circumstantial evidence. which can include testimony, eye witness accounts, anything, except hard evidence like a positive test.

Once again Circumstantial evidence in any court in america if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.


Come my dude, you should know this.

But, nothing that you have provided applies to Pac.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Lolz. If you really take time to analyze it, the burden of proof lies on the accuser not the accused. Otherwise, all fighters are suspect including Pwill, Pbf, Dlh ( *the notable weight climbers).

If you really take time to analyze without being biased towrds one side or the other ist not hard to understand that Pac could be cheating. He could also be clean. Its not clear cut and dry.

[P4P Opinion]

Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes testimony?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes eye witness accounts?
Do you understand Circumstantial evidence, includes pattern profiles where they bring in experts to testify on behavior ?

Give me eye witness accounts or pattern profiles with expert analysis or something then, because right now you have nothing. No circumstantial evidence at all. Unless you want to count a baseless accusation from the father of a rival.