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  • [QUOTE=No Ceilings;7650194]Mayweather didnt start his career 2007 man. He was boxing 11 years before that.[/QU

    That's why i'm asking you what make's him an atg and mosley not?Mosley was in with the better fighter's mosley won some and lost some but that's what happen's when you seek out fighter's on your skill level.If mosley had the same resume that mayweather has do you think he would have a lost?

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    • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
      Thats my thing there is no way to tell. They have two completely different styles of defense and styles of fighting altogether. Only way I can think of is rating their defensive qualities as a whole and seeing what they are good at.
      Yeah except one did it against better opposition.

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      • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        Thats my thing there is no way to tell. They have two completely different styles of defense and styles of fighting altogether. Only way I can think of is rating their defensive qualities as a whole and seeing what they are good at.
        OK Burner................ fair enough I guess...

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Yeah except one did it against better opposition.
          And like I told Jro. Thats not Floyds fault. That was a golden age in boxing.

          When I actually think about it out of all the guys Floyd couldve fought Manny is the only one who will be an ATG at the signing of the contract. Thats shows how different the age is we in.

          Nell was no joke though loved watching him make Oscar look like a fool. Prolly my favorite memory of him.

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          • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
            Are we going to have a debate or is it going to turn into this?
            Come on you even have to laugh when you see baldy name there.Listen if you put on the glove's i respect you.But you and i know there are different skill level's in the fight game.With the only fighter he was in the ring with being on that same level was hoya.he won he get's full credit and he is a atg but for you to say he is atg and mosley is not well that just don't sound right bro.

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            • [QUOTE=romebyko;7650215]
              Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
              Mayweather didnt start his career 2007 man. He was boxing 11 years before that.[/QU

              That's why i'm asking you what make's him an atg and mosley not?Mosley was in with the better fighter's mosley won some and lost some but that's what happen's when you seek out fighter's on your skill level.If mosley had the same resume that mayweather has do you think he would have a lost?
              How can we gauge that? Mosley didnt start at 126. Mosley isnt an ATG in my book because he hasnt done enough. He beats Floyd or Manny he'll have a better case.

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              • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                And like I told Jro. Thats not Floyds fault. That was a golden age in boxing.

                When I actually think about it out of all the guys Floyd couldve fought Manny is the only one who will be an ATG at the signing of the contract. Thats shows how different the age is we in.

                Nell was no joke though loved watching him make Oscar look like a fool. Prolly my favorite memory of him.
                I don't think the argument is whether it's his fault or not. The bottom line is that if one person did it against better opposition they are rightfully considered the better defensive fighter.

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                • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                  Come on you even have to laugh when you see baldy name there.Listen if you put on the glove's i respect you.But you and i know there are different skill level's in the fight game.With the only fighter he was in the ring with being on that same level was hoya.he won he get's full credit and he is a atg but for you to say he is atg and mosley is not well that just don't sound right bro.
                  Why do you think Mosleys an ATG? Im a Floyd fan to the 10th power. I could hype Shane as an ATG to make Floyd look better but I just cant. Hes not an ATG.

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                  • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Why do you think Mosleys an ATG? Im a Floyd fan to the 10th power. I could hype Shane as an ATG to make Floyd look better but I just cant. Hes not an ATG.
                    Personally I can't call either one an ATG but I'll definitely have a different take on May 2nd.

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      I don't think the argument is whether it's his fault or not. The bottom line is that if one person did it against better opposition they are rightfully considered the better defensive fighter.
                      Well I agree to disagree.

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