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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #111
    Originally posted by romebyko
    msley is a atg he just not rank high at this point i have floyd rank higher then mosley and pac rank higher then both of them so he still has a chance and he has atg to fight
    On Mosley not to hate. As of May 1st hes not an ATG. So again that shows you that there arent any ATG's around Floyds weight class that he can fight except Manny.

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    • zzat
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      #112
      Originally posted by drudolphreese
      i wonder how anyone knows that shane has trouble with speed and movement. his losses were to guys that were not fast and beside cotto didnt move that great.

      if anyone has trouble with speed its mayweather. look at the judah fight early.
      Well said, that's why Roach should just shut up on this one or at least make smart statements.

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        #113
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        In boxing bringing a list of the fighters you fought in the past to the ring wont help you.
        but who you been in the ring with will help you handle a fight were it's give and take in a tough fight which make no mistake mayweather will be in on may 1 and he is use to fighting fighter's who are not on his level or big blown up lightweight's so that will make a difference

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          #114
          Originally posted by romebyko
          oh yea and maybe mayweather would be higher on everyone's list if he got in the ring with real ww
          Baldomir isnt a real WW?

          Judah?

          Oscar wasnt a 160 Pounder before?

          Floyd has fought real WW's. He gets **** for fighting Hatton when it was the BIGGEST fight in the sport at the time and all of Boxingscene was going nuts for it then when he Knocked him out they all complain and say Hatton wasnt a 147 Pounder.

          JMM was a tune up. I dont fault him for that.

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            #115
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Thats not fair. What other ATG's are around for Floyd? We have to stop saying that. Those old guys had the luxury of ATG's. Cotto? Marg? Mosley? The only other ATG around Floyds weight class that he has a chance to fight is Manny. Im just rating skills ofocurse he didnt fight 10 ATGs still doesnt take away from his skill level and thats what I based my list on I didnt even factor in resume.
            Is not fair but that has to be a factor. Because, who is to say if he does fight ATGs that his defense would look that good? I will just say this a poor mans Chavez in Castillo would never been competitive against Whitaker. Ever... Especially at 135... A past prime Whitaker, A whitaker that was not at his best fought a prime Oscar I am talking about the best Oscar version absolute prime and a past prime Whitaker made that prime Oscar look foolish at times. Especially when was it round 2? At the end when Oscar threw 6 lightning quick punches and Whitaker avoided every single one... Again Whitaker was not even in his prime. And, wasn't as untouchable at 147 as he was at 135. But, that is how much of a genious Whitaker was.

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              #116
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Shane doesnt have a good jab bro. And he doesnt not have good "ring saavy".

              Hes a brawler. He said it himself.
              He never flat out said he was a brawler. In the past he has said that he likes to go for the KO, but if the situation called for it he can be a competent boxer.

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                #117
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Shane doesnt have a good jab bro. And he doesnt not have good "ring saavy".

                Hes a brawler. He said it himself.
                i guess those were someone else's right jab's rocking margacheato's chin

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by romebyko
                  i can respect that but i think the fact that shane has been in with animals will make the difference in this fight when is the last time mayweather was in with an animal that had the skill to test him?mosley has never stop testing himself and that's why i have mosley in this one
                  But, then you also have to realize how much the time off will affect Shane too... This is the longest layoff of his career. And, then you also add to the fact that he was already in training camp. Weeks before the fight suppose to happen it gets cancelled. He gets Floyd, and now he has to go right back and start training camp all over again. He might be overtrained, he might of peaked already. He really went to two training camps back to back. All that has to be a factored in... I mean don't get me wrong Shane has a chance. A big chance. I just think Floyd right now is in a better postion. No matter what the winner gets huge credit from me personally

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Is not fair but that has to be a factor. Because, who is to say if he does fight ATGs that his defense would look that good? I will just say this a poor mans Chavez in Castillo would never been competitive against Whitaker. Ever... Especially at 135... A past prime Whitaker, A whitaker that was not at his best fought a prime Oscar I am talking about the best Oscar version absolute prime and a past prime Whitaker made that prime Oscar look foolish at times. Especially when was it round 2? At the end when Oscar threw 6 lightning quick punches and Whitaker avoided every single one... Again Whitaker was not even in his prime. And, wasn't as untouchable at 147 as he was at 135. But, that is how much of a genious Whitaker was.
                    Thats the thing. There are no ATG's in his era that he can fight other then Manny. Thast not Floyds fault. Thats how boxing is now. With Duran, SRL, Benitez, Hearns, Hagelr, etc...That was a Golden Age. This era aint like that.

                    Floyd has no other ATG's. He only has Manny which is why he needs to fight him. I wont fault him for his competition that fights at the same time he does for not being on the level of Nell, SRL and Duran etc...

                    Why are you knocking Floyd for the Castillo fight? He fought with a torn rotator cuff. In the rematch it was easily 8-4. I dont get that. Give Nell a torn rotator cuff then throw him in with JLC. Then we'll have a FAIR assessment. They have 2 different styles of defense. Floyd is textbook with reflexes as well. Nell was just Reflexes. Just because one style is more flashy doesnt make it better. Roy Jones was impossible to hit too at times.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      On Mosley not to hate. As of May 1st hes not an ATG. So again that shows you that there arent any ATG's around Floyds weight class that he can fight except Manny.
                      lol name a better ww fight in the last decade then mosley hoya that live up to the hype and made history he is a first ballot hof and has held belts in three div and has had long life in boxing and got in the ring with all comer's are you foreal when you shane is not a atg you are bugging out my friend for this era he is rank in with atg he not gonna be rank high up but he is in

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