Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?

[IMDAZED]

Was USADA going to go with the 14 day cutoff date? Or was another agency going to do it since it had a cutoff date? Because, I remember USADA saying they will not do a cutoff date. But, I am not sure if they changed there mind or not...

I don't know if they would have. But it goes to show who was willing to to go to great lengths to try to make the fight happen. From cutting down the # of tests, to extending the dates. Wow.

[.PrettyBoy32.]

Floyd is gets respect from me either way,
And to be honest even the haters would respect what he is doing if any other Boxer wanted this........

[IMDAZED]

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it random URINE testing up to the fight night they were requiring? And wasn't Manny more than willing to submit himself to it, even a blood test right after the fight?

No, they required random blood testing as well. Up to five tests. Pacquiao's team wanted it to be cut down to three, to which Mayweather agreed. They also wanted the random blood testing to be done in order: one immediately following the press conference, one during training and one right after.

[Ringthebell]

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it random URINE testing up to the fight night they were requiring? And wasn't Manny more than willing to submit himself to it, even a blood test right after the fight?

I think one of the concerns is that there is a certain type of PED (antimyostatin) which is taken on a 21 day cycle that then clears the body in 24-48 hours when the cycle is completed and would not show up in a post-fight blood test. The urine test would show only elevated levels of Uric acid (which 30% of the population has anyway). So, an athlete on this PED could take a blood test 24 days prior to the event, cycle the PED for 21 days and still test clean post-event. Even though it is only a 10 day difference, those 10 days matter. I am not saying that Pac is or isn't roiding, but for those who say that 14 and 24 days are the same thing, that is just not accurate.

[.PrettyBoy32.]

I think one of the concerns is that there is a certain type of PED (antimyostatin) which is taken on a 21 day cycle that then clears the body in 24-48 hours when the cycle is completed and would not show up in a post-fight blood test. The urine test would show only elevated levels of Uric acid (which 30% of the population has anyway). So, an athlete on this PED could take a blood test 24 days prior to the event, cycle the PED for 21 days and still test clean post-event. Even though it is only a 10 day difference, those 10 days matter. I am not saying that Pac is or isn't roiding, but for those who say that 14 and 24 days are the same thing, that is just not accurate.

There are so many different types of roids that can be used it ridiculous,
Good post bro

[FLY TY]

There are so many different types of roids that can be used it ridiculous,
Good post bro

there are drugs that can clear your system not only in days, but also in a matter of HOURS.


ppl on this site seem to focus only on HGH, but like you said, there are tons of different PED's.

[.PrettyBoy32.]

there are drugs that can clear your system not only in days, but also in a matter of HOURS.


ppl on this site seem to focus only on HGH, but like you said, there are tons of different PED's.

Exactly these are usually the people calling Floyd a ***** for offering a 14day cut-off point, if these idiots knew anything they would realise that, that is more then enough time, even if Manny is on PED's

[damned1974]

I agree with you there that turning down a venue is far from turning down a fight.

I was debating with RingtheBell who said that all this was intended by Bob to fail because he wanted Manny to fight at Dallas no matter who the opponent.

I wanted to point out that though Bob arum may have partial responsibility in the failure of this fight to happen, he didn't actively go all out to sabotage it and that Floyd's rejecting the Dallas fight was his own decision and not because of Bob's own manipulations, and that Floyd was very su****ious in my eyes for doing so.

Floyd rejecting the Dallas stadium was before serious negotiations were in place between Floyd and Manny.I personally lay a lot of blame (as you already know) on Manny's team-especially Bob Arum.I thought he should have struck while the iron was hot and compromised a bit or applied his influence with Manny in a more positive direction to get this fight made for March.
By the time this fight reaches the next negotiations,it will either be worst (especially if Floyd beats Shane,gets a larger PPV than Manny,gets a belt and bumps up a rank in most P4P) because Floyd will feel entitled to more of the purse and demands and it will be a more escalated drama leaving Manny to look for some catfish of the division,or it will be opposite and Manny and company will cave in and compromise.
Whatever the outcome,I feel Arum has given us, the fans, one big "box-tease" and by the time it happens it will have lost a bit of the luster and excitement that a March date would have generated.
Unfortunately Arum and Floyd have bad blood and may never do much business in the future because of this animosity.I know Cotto has been agitated with Arum anytime he supports Margarito's return to the ring.At the end of the day,it is not about the fans or the fighters,it is about Arum and his bank account.He is a ****** pig that "eats where he ****s"...

[AFighter4U]

No, they required random blood testing as well. Up to five tests. Pacquiao's team wanted it to be cut down to three, to which Mayweather agreed. They also wanted the random blood testing to be done in order: one immediately following the press conference, one during training and one right after.

You guys are confusing the USADA and the Nevada Athletic Commission.

Its the Nevada Athletic Commission who decides on how testing is to be done on boxers and they require only urine tests and annual blood tests to ensure the fighters are clean.

[IMDAZED]

You guys are confusing the USADA and the Nevada Athletic Commission.

Its the Nevada Athletic Commission who decides on how testing is to be done on boxers and they require only urine tests and annual blood tests to ensure the fighters are clean.

We are well aware of who the NSAC is. And the blood tests they give are not for PEDs. And if their PED tests weren't so pathetic, we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.