Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #201
    Originally posted by sNiTcH
    USADA announced last year that they were funding a company that has developed a test to detect HGH in urine.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine
    Yes but that test hasn't hit the market, making it extremely irrelevant.

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    • baracuda
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      #202
      not really...he should be exposed more that he is scared of fighting the baddest p4p boxer of the world.......everyone else is following a unified rule about drug testing including him in all of his fights why cant he do it vs packy, floyd is the biggest ***** in boxing!

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        #203
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        This logic could easily be flipped around. Why would Manny want an extra 10 day window?

        Secondly, yes there is a possibility that he could cheat within that span, as mentioned by experts and doctors. Why do you think they test all the way up until an event, for fun? No. There is a reason behind that.
        As he repeatedly said before, he considers it too close to the fight for comfort. If he really wanted to cheat, by your admission, then he would have very happily agreed to floyd's 14 day window, since its very possible to cheat with that many days before the fight.

        Yeah, so now you're saying that Floyd is breaking the commission rules by saying they should take random blood tests up to 14 days before the fight. Some arbiter of fairness. His compromise just made the blood test practically useless. As you said there's a reason behind their insistence of a test all the way to the even and Floyd just ignored them.

        How can you claim to be an arbiter of fairness when you can't even follow your own rules?

        Besides, as i have repeatedly pointed out, the rules you are talking about are USADA standards which hold no jurisdiction over the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight. Its the Nevada Athletic Commission which have jurisdiction over them.

        Who do you think ordered both Manny and Floyd to take drug tests recently?

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          #204
          Originally posted by AFighter4U
          As he repeatedly said before, he considers it too close to the fight for comfort. If he really wanted to cheat, by your admission, then he would have very happily agreed to floyd's 14 day window, since its very possible to cheat with that many days before the fight.

          Yeah, so now you're saying that Floyd is breaking the commission rules by saying they should take random blood tests up to 14 days before the fight. Some arbiter of fairness. His compromise just made the blood test practically useless. As you said there's a reason behind their insistence of a test all the way to the even and Floyd just ignored them.

          How can you claim to be an arbiter of fairness when you can't even follow your own rules?

          Besides, as i have repeatedly pointed out, the rules you are talking about are USADA standards which hold no jurisdiction over the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight. Its the Nevada Athletic Commission which have jurisdiction over them.

          Who do you think ordered both Manny and Floyd to take drug tests recently?
          Pac just took a blood test 19 days from a fight. He lied and told Floyd he needed 24 days.

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            #205
            Originally posted by AFighter4U
            As he repeatedly said before, he considers it too close to the fight for comfort. If he really wanted to cheat, by your admission, then he would have very happily agreed to floyd's 14 day window, since its very possible to cheat with that many days before the fight.
            Out of curiousity, what exactly makes him comfortable? Didn't he just take a test 19 days out? And wasn't it him that claimed he had no problem with it as long as it wasn't the day before the fight? Which one is it?
            Yeah, so now you're saying that Floyd is breaking the commission rules by saying they should take random blood tests up to 14 days before the fight. Some arbiter of fairness. His compromise just made the blood test practically useless. As you said there's a reason behind their insistence of a test all the way to the even and Floyd just ignored them.
            What commission rules is he breaking and why hasn't the commission complained? At least you're right about one thing: his compromise did make the blood test useless. As Victor Conte noted, Floyd shouldn't have compromised beyond 10 days.

            How can you claim to be an arbiter of fairness when you can't even follow your own rules?
            I think the bigger question is, why did it even have to come to that?

            Besides, as i have repeatedly pointed out, the rules you are talking about are USADA standards which hold no jurisdiction over the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight. Its the Nevada Athletic Commission which have jurisdiction over them.
            The NSAC had no issues with the testing so why do you?

            Who do you think ordered both Manny and Floyd to take drug tests recently?
            Which drug test are you referring to?

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              #206
              Originally posted by TYREL
              what is NSAC's stance on fighters coming into a fight overweight?

              are they usually fined 10 mil/ pound?
              lol-not many people responding to that question! lol
              Most would assume that even the NSAC would not support a fight with a welter fighting someone above the limit...The penalty probably shouldn't be in place because the fight would be nullified.
              Floyd probably knew this and thought it was a cheap way for Manny to get out of the fight by asking this,so he put the ball in their court and agreed...then Manny didn't want to agree on anything Floyd requested.

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                #207
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                For the last time, the NSAC does not blood test for PEDs.
                Of course they don't. When did i ever say they did? The use urine tests for that. Urine tests are sufficient to detect PEDS and steroids, and they use blood to test for HGH.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Pac just took a blood test 19 days from a fight. He lied and told Floyd he needed 24 days.
                  This man speaks the truth

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    Of course they don't. When did i ever say they did? The use urine tests for that. Urine tests are sufficient to detect PEDS and steroids, and they use blood to test for HGH.
                    What makes you say urine tests are sufficient? Blood tests are used for more than just HGH, by the way.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      If floyd was truly willing to go your so-called "great lengths" to make this fight happen, then why didn't he budge on the 10 day difference?

                      What is 10 days? What he thinks manny will cheat if he has a window of 24 days, but WON'T if he has a window of ONLY 14 DAYS?

                      Where is the logic there?

                      Floyd jr. somehow thinks that manny CAN cheat in 24 days but for some miracle CANNOT CHEAT in 14 days?

                      That Manny's conscience would somehow NOT work if given 24 days to cheat but he will be conscience-stricken if given only 14 days?
                      because floyd could give TWO ****s about putting this fight together thats why, he knew everything was falling apart, they were at the final stage of negotiations where they last resorted an abitrator to save the fight( PAC REQUESTED THE ARBITRATOR) and yet 40 million was too much for this kitty to meet halfway,
                      why couldnt mayweather meet pac halfway??????what happens when pac is tested at 24 days instead of 14? would some of the drugs be undetected? the answer is a clean NO
                      all known steroids and EPO can be detected through urine test alone, there was a guaranteed clause propose by team pacquiao to have a urine test EVERYDAY!!
                      the only thing blood test is good for is detecting synthetic( lab produce) HGH in the body, which by the way is now widely accepted among the scientific community as a PERFORMANCE-DECREASING DRUG because it weakens your stamina.. SOMETHING PAC doesnt have right now.. a weaken stamina

                      it is absolutely clear that floyd knew this and if he didnt, he shouldnt known this, with as much as 40 million on the line, he couldve had ellerbe and all his crackhead cronies hire a drug expert or do a little research and see there's nothing to lose to meet halfway

                      AS FOR PAC.. at least there's proof that blood letting actually affects him as he said right after the morales fight in a video... WE SEE WHY PAC WAS BEING APPREHENSIVE YES?

                      it doesn't make sense why mayweather couldnt meet pac halfway as he had absolutely nothing to lose,
                      so it begs the question: why would he not meet halfway and pass up a 40 million fight?

                      the only reason could be because he is scared out of his wits that pacquiao would knock him da *** out, battered him to a tee, hes a stinking *****

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