Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?

[AFighter4U]

Pac just took a blood test 19 days from a fight. He lied and told Floyd he needed 24 days.

Yeah, he needed 24 days, but he took a routine examination REQUIRED OF ALL BOXERS BEFORE A FIGHT.

He had no choice in the matter.

[1nonlymre]

Yes and no.

Yes, because if he would have never brought it up, Pacquiao would be flying under the radar IF he uses them.

No, because ultimately his purpose of the PED testing was to get under Pacquiao's skin, not clean up the sport.

BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!!

Why is this so difficult to understand.

It's called "****ing with your head" gone extreme.

[AFighter4U]

Out of curiousity, what exactly makes him comfortable? Didn't he just take a test 19 days out? And wasn't it him that claimed he had no problem with it as long as it wasn't the day before the fight? Which one is it?

24 days is comfy for him.

He took it 20 days before the fight. He had to. It was a routine checkup that ALL BOXERS ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE. He had no choice in the matter.

What commission rules is he breaking and why hasn't the commission complained? At least you're right about one thing: his compromise did make the blood test useless. As Victor Conte noted, Floyd shouldn't have compromised beyond 10 days.

What rules were you referring to when you mentioned they required boxers random blood tests up to the fight night? You ARE right. Why didn't they complain indeed?

AND as you yourself stated, why would floyd jr., throw away $40 million over A PRACTICALLY USELESS TEST?

Think about it. Based on your own admission, he rejected a useless test (24 days from manny) but counter offered an EQUALLY USELESS TEST (14 days from Floyd jr).

Where, may i ask is the logic there? or maybe he was high on a-side meth or something when he made that offer.

I think the bigger question is, why did it even have to come to that?

Ask floyd jr. that question.

The NSAC had no issues with the testing so why do you?

You should ask that of Floyd jr. NSAC had no issue with manny asking for a random blood test up to 24 days before the fight. Why was floyd jr. so adamant against it?

Which drug test are you referring to?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/29/sports/la-sp-newswire29-2009dec29

[IMDAZED]

24 days is comfy for him.

So then why did he say 30 before?

So then why did he say as long as it's not the day of the fight?

He took it 20 days before the fight. He had to. It was a routine checkup that ALL BOXERS ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE. He had no choice in the matter.

So in other words, he CAN take a blood test after 30, 24 days.

What rules were you referring to when you mentioned they required boxers random blood tests up to the fight night? You ARE right. Why didn't they complain indeed?

I was referring to the Anti-Doping Agency rules. So hmm...

Ask floyd jr. that question.

Well I think we know the answer to that, hard as it may be for you.

You should ask that of Floyd jr. NSAC had no issue with manny asking for a random blood test up to 24 days before the fight. Why was floyd jr. so adamant against it?

Why were they discussing cutoff dates anyway?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec...re29-2009dec29

What does this mean for you?

[.PrettyBoy32.]

Yeah, he needed 24 days, but he took a routine examination REQUIRED OF ALL BOXERS BEFORE A FIGHT.

He had no choice in the matter.

Exactly and he had no problem giving blood like he said he wouldn't be able to do, "Because it would make him weak."

[AFighter4U]

So then why did he say 30 before?

So then why did he say as long as it's not the day of the fight?

So in other words, he CAN take a blood test after 30, 24 days.

Yes, 24 days before the fight is not on the day of the fight. Yes, he did say 30 days before, then changed it to 24 days. Its called bargaining. Yes, he CAN take a test 20 days before a fight. But it only because he had to. If given a choice, he won't.

I was referring to the Anti-Doping Agency rules. So hmm...

So which Anti-doping Agency has jurisdiction over the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight? USADA or NSAC? Hmmmm????

Well I think we know the answer to that, hard as it may be for you.

I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure we have different answers to that question.

Why were they discussing cutoff dates anyway?

Because Floyd jr. was being so pigheaded about it when as i pointed out, in the end, he rejected a PRACTICALLY USELESS CUTOFF DATE for an equally USELESS CUTOFF DATE. Which by the way, you so conveniently ignored. (which is understandable since i'm used to having people ignore pertinent facts).

Let me restate it again. FLOYD JR. THREW AWAY $40 MILLION OVER A USELESS TEST.

What does this mean for you?

It simply means manny is clean.

[AFighter4U]

Exactly and he had no problem giving blood like he said he wouldn't be able to do, "Because it would make him weak."

Who said he had no problem giving blood at that point? Did you see him smile, while they took his blood? Did he sing? Dance? Laugh?

He HAD to give his blood, otherwise, he wouldn't be allowed to fight. Besides, they have repeatedly said that they would go by the rules of the Nevada Athletic Commission.

So when Nevada said to take the test, he took it.

[IMDAZED]

Yes, 24 days before the fight is not on the day of the fight. Yes, he did say 30 days before, then changed it to 24 days. Its called bargaining. Yes, he CAN take a test 20 days before a fight. But it only because he had to. If given a choice, he won't.

Someone says you can test me at any time except the day before the fight, that usually includes 14 days and within. I don't know, call me crazy?

So which Anti-doping Agency has jurisdiction over the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight? USADA or NSAC? Hmmmm????

Obviously the NSAC. And obviously the USADA can be implemented without question. Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Because Floyd jr. was being so pigheaded about it when as i pointed out, in the end, he rejected a PRACTICALLY USELESS CUTOFF DATE for an equally USELESS CUTOFF DATE. Which by the way, you so conveniently ignored. (which is understandable since i'm used to having people ignore pertinent facts).

So your position is that Floyd shouldn't have even compromised. Well at least we agree on something.

It simply means manny is clean.

Doesn't take much to convince you, I see.

[IMDAZED]

Who said he had no problem giving blood at that point? Did you see him smile, while they took his blood? Did he sing? Dance? Laugh?

He HAD to give his blood, otherwise, he wouldn't be allowed to fight. Besides, they have repeatedly said that they would go by the rules of the Nevada Athletic Commission.

So when Nevada said to take the test, he took it.

Good thing he HAD to or else we would've believed him when he said he wouldn't be able to spar for a few days after taking one.

[AFighter4U]

Someone says you can test me at any time except the day before the fight, that usually includes 14 days and within. I don't know, call me crazy?

You're crazy. But seriously, i think you may have confused Roach or somebody else saying that and not Manny. The man lost to morales and he felt the blood test he took 2 days before the fight had something to do with it. Do you think he suddenly forget about all of that?

I seriously doubt manny said that but, if and IF you do have a link to a clip showing manny saying that with his own words, then i'll admit my mistake. But until then, i'll believe it when i see it.

Obviously the NSAC. And obviously the USADA can be implemented without question. Not sure what you're trying to say here.

the USADA....CAN.... meaning OPTIONAL meaning NOT MANDATORY meaning NOT REQUIRED. Not MUST or HAVE TO or NEED TO BE TAKEN AT THE RISK OF BEING DRAGGED TO THE STREETS AND SHOT FOR NON COMPLIANCE.

So your position is that Floyd shouldn't have even compromised. Well at least we agree on something.

Nope. That's not my position at all. Floyd jr. didn't compromise anything because he never wanted to fight Manny in the first place.

Man. Do i have to spell it out to you?

Would you reject a FORTUNE over a useless test? Would you? Would you forgo possibly one of the biggest fights of your career over something you KNOW will ultimately have no bearing whatsoever with the result of the fight? Not unless you never wanted the fight in the first place.

A sane human being wouldn't throw away $40 million over something useless. I guess Floyd jr felt his "0" was more important than $40 million.

Doesn't take much to convince you, I see.

Oh, so to you, a man is GUILTY until prove innocent then? That negative test result will not convince you at all that Manny is clean ?