should a boxer be allowed to be a commisioner too when he fights?

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  • baracuda
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    #91
    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
    I think they were. Aren't the commissioners supposed to inspect the wraps? yes, but they were not competent and Nassim found the illegal substances in Margarito's wraps. Someone who was actually concerned for the well being of his fighter and not some prick who was just doing his job.
    i guess floyd's demands would solve that.....lol

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      #92
      Originally posted by Get High
      It's his own life he is risking in the ring.
      How is that any different from car racing, MMA, Football, and most other sports, are you saying that most sports if not all, that the athletes should be allowed to be their own commissioner and make rules for themselves. And also remember that by allowing that, it will also allow athletes to cheat even more. That's why you need a commissioner to set rules and standards for each sport.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Six Shooter
        Being a cheat is the worst thing in sport, i just cant see why someone wouldn't jump at the chance to prove they fight clean if they are clean. Why leave a huge doubt over your career when you have achieved so much?
        i agree with the first statement......pac has never cheated!.....nope iwould'nt babysit my accusers demands at all.....

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        • Kevin Malone
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          #94
          Originally posted by baracuda
          those scenarios are somewhat beyond their control....
          Bad decisions when they appoint the judges are beyond their control?
          Not enforcing the rules when it is their job is beyond their control?

          were the commisioners the ones to blame too when margo used handwraps?
          Which time? People really don't know how many times Margarito used handwraps because the commission failed.

          You are proving my point. It was NOT the commission who discovered the handwraps but someone intimately involved in the fight (Mosely's trainer, Richardson) discovered them.

          what bad rules?....
          Some commissions have stricter drug testing than others, some states will license guys with severe health issues (see Nevada in Ali vs. Holmes), no accountability of judges, some commissions allow certain drugs to be taken (see Mayweather in Nevada). Need I continue?

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            #95
            Originally posted by rommel357
            How is that any different from car racing, MMA, Football, and most other sports, are you saying that most sports if not all, that the athletes should be allowed to be their own commissioner and make rules for themselves. And also remember that by allowing that, it will also allow athletes to cheat even more. That's why you need a commissioner to set rules and standards for each sport.
            That is much different.

            In auto racing their rules are not created and enforced by a government body. NASCAR or Indy racing is a private body with voluntary competitors who agree to the standards set. If you do not like the official NASCAR or Indy rules or commission you are free to compete in another league or even start your own. You can still race for paychecks legally without the official grace of NASCAR. You can not box for paychecks legally without the official grace of state commissions.

            The same applies to most other professional sports. MMA I'm not so sure about...

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            • Vasyl’s dad
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              #96
              Originally posted by Kevin Malone
              Absolutely they should. The commission is not looking out for the interests of the boxers or the sport. All they care about is themselves.

              The boxers should agree on standards. It's better for the fighters, the fans, and the sport.

              I think it's amusing that people support state boxing commissions yet they will ***** about bad decisions, dumb rules, poor drug testing, over-the-hill fighters getting licensed, etc. which are all the results of? You guessed it, the commission.

              Some of the worst things about the sport come at the hands of commissions...
              What does the commission have to gain by looking out for themselves?

              I'm not really understanding what you are saying. They're not a promoter, nor a sanctioning organization. They're merely a governing body.

              What interests do they have in a bout between two parties, and how do they profit from it?

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                #97
                Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                I know man. Whatevs.



                I would not let my neighbor inspect my house for stolen **** but if he asked me to take a blood test to prove that I didn't, and I was going to make tens of millions of dollars, then hell yes, I would.

                Personally, I don't think Pac does steroids. The thing that drives me crazy is that he won't submit to a simple and ****** request to prove his innocence.. I'm sorry but he could put his pride aside to earn 30 million dollars.

                We are talking about 10's of millions of dollars here. What wouldn't you do for 10 million dollars?

                You're acting as if Pac is broke and penniless begging for change on the street.


                But why wouldn't you let your neighbor inspect your house for stolen goods?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Kevin Malone
                  Bad decisions when they appoint the judges are beyond their control?
                  Not enforcing the rules when it is their job is beyond their control?



                  Which time? People really don't know how many times Margarito used handwraps because the commission failed.

                  You are proving my point. It was NOT the commission who discovered the handwraps but someone intimately involved in the fight (Mosely's trainer, Richardson) discovered them.



                  Some commissions have stricter drug testing than others, some states will license guys with severe health issues (see Nevada in Ali vs. Holmes), no accountability of judges, some commissions allow certain drugs to be taken (see Mayweather in Nevada). Need I continue?
                  altho, i agreethat the commisions should appoint better judges, its beyond their control how one would score a fight...... that is why judges have different scorecards even when its a UD..they should ban the bad ones

                  ...you could mostly blame margos past opponents camps for not paying attention....or...theres a possiblity too that margo really just tried cheatin vs mosely......my point is,none of these problems could be solved by following floydieboys demands.....

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by El Jesus
                    Wording it like this creates sort of a slippery slope that makes it easy for the TS to be agreeable. The better question should be if fighters should or shouldnt be allowed to set a new precedent for the rules if they feel that safety measures have evolved in order to level the playing field.
                    I would suggest they can request it with the ultimate decision being left up to the sanctioning organization or the boxing commission overseeing the event.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Six Shooter
                      Being a cheat is the worst thing in sport, i just cant see why someone wouldn't jump at the chance to prove they fight clean if they are clean. Why leave a huge doubt over your career when you have achieved so much?

                      The only people who doubt Pacquiao happen to be mostly Floyd fans.


                      The rest of us don't form our opinion on someone who makes baseless accusations without any evidence or proof.

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