should a boxer be allowed to be a commisioner too when he fights?

[Vasyl’s dad]

That is much different.

In auto racing their rules are not created and enforced by a government body. NASCAR or Indy racing is a private body with voluntary competitors who agree to the standards set. If you do not like the official NASCAR or Indy rules or commission you are free to compete in another league or even start your own. You can still race for paychecks legally without the official grace of NASCAR. You can not box for paychecks legally without the official grace of state commissions.

The same applies to most other professional sports. MMA I'm not so sure about...

You can only box for one commission at a time, so your example is skewed to prove your point.

[Kevin Malone]

What does the commission have to gain by looking out for themselves?

A paycheck for doing nothing more than being a member of a government.

If I wanted to start up a private commission called "World Commission of Boxing" or something which demanded stricter drug testing, better judges, referees who looked out for the health of the fighter more than many state appointed referees, and standardized all the rules of fights under this "World Commission of Boxing" done in the world this would be illegal. The government body would obviously have a problem with me stepping on their toes and doing "their" job.

In a world without the screwed up world of government commissions if boxers had a problem with my judges or referees they could find another commission to their liking, or even privately agree between the 2 fighters to referee and judges (like they do in numerous sports leagues across the world). In a world without government commissions boxing would have numerous incentives to increase drug testing, look out for the safety of the fighters, and demand much more fair scoring. People can't compete with the people on the government teet because doing so would land them in jail.

[pasawayako]

Usually, if a fighter is scared of his opponent the only way out is to play the commissioner role. I heard it works wonder to the fighter who's scared to fight.

i agree its the best way to duck a fight that you think you can't win.

[Kevin Malone]

altho, i agreethat the commisions should appoint better judges, its beyond their control how one would score a fight...... that is why judges have different scorecards even when its a UD..they should ban the bad ones

They don't ban the bad ones.

...you could mostly blame margos past opponents camps for not paying attention

Why is it their fault when the commission is in charge of it?

....or...theres a possiblity too that margo really just tried cheatin vs mosely....

There would be no doubt if commissions didn't have their head up their ass.

..my point is,none of these problems could be solved by following floydieboys demands.....

I couldn't care less about Floyd-Pac right now and my points have nothing to do with a fight that isn't happening. They have to do with the sport itself.

[Vasyl’s dad]

A paycheck for doing nothing more than being a member of a government.

If I wanted to start up a private commission called "World Commission of Boxing" or something which demanded stricter drug testing, better judges, referees who looked out for the health of the fighter more than many state appointed referees, and standardized all the rules of fights under this "World Commission of Boxing" done in the world this would be illegal. The government body would obviously have a problem with me stepping on their toes and doing "their" job.

In a world without the screwed up world of government commissions if boxers had a problem with my judges or referees they could find another commission to their liking, or even privately agree between the 2 fighters to referee and judges (like they do in numerous sports leagues across the world). In a world without government commissions boxing would have numerous incentives to increase drug testing, look out for the safety of the fighters, and demand much more fair scoring. People can't compete with the people on the government teet because doing so would land them in jail.

a paycheck?

For doing nothing more than being a member of government?

Thats what they have to gain?

Sorry, but that doesn't really cover anything in regards to "all they care about is themselves".


You're acting as if they're laundering millions of dollars from boxing and milking these athletes dry.

You need to come better than that.

[baCCaT]

sour truth is..

they just dont want to give PBF his career payday..after team mayweather stamped the "probable user" on pac, which by the way will never be undone.. even if it came out negative, detractors will always use the arguement "he didnt get caught cause the drugs are cutting edge and not yet standardized". denying "money"mayweather the only reason why he's into boxing which is money...
thats a feel good thought. probably puts a smirk on any pacfan and
mayweather critic.

if you want to get back at somebody who did you wrong.. the best way is through what that person deems the most important thing for him. in "money" mays case... 10s of millions..

also drop the arguement "ones own safety" as basis for demanding olympic style drug testing..its nullified by the words made by moneymay who declared a pacfight an easy fight..

floyd fans contradicting floyd jr

as al bernstein said PBF is in fact a boxing genius, and i fully agree with him, mayweather was called prettyboy because the fact of the matter is, he seldom gets in trouble inside the ring... so drop the "thinking of ones own life".

lastly...

why do critics keeping stressing on a situation that did not change even on the first day.

being stressed out on a su****ion.

[Kevin Malone]

You can only box for one commission at a time, so your example is skewed to prove your point.

What?

If myself and you decided we were going to put on a boxing show in Ohio between the 2 of us, we would pick the venue, date, etc.

We could not pick what referee would be in our fight. We could not pick what judges would be in our fight.

If we put on a show with our own referees, judges, and doctors our show would be shut down and we could be sued.

If we started our own football league or racing league we could pick our referees and rules. Our games and races would not be shut down.

[baracuda]

They don't ban the bad ones.



Why is it their fault when the commission is in charge of it?



There would be no doubt if commissions didn't have their head up their ass.



I couldn't care less about Floyd-Pac right now and my points have nothing to do with a fight that isn't happening. They have to do with the sport itself.

partly thier fault and mostly the boxers camps fault......theyre both responsible....

this thread is about the failed pac vs floyd fight......

[Kevin Malone]

a paycheck?

For doing nothing more than being a member of government?

Thats what they have to gain?

Sorry, but that doesn't really cover anything in regards to "all they care about is themselves".

If you are guaranteed $100k a year for sitting on a government commission of boxing (and you may not even be a fan of the sport, state commissions are loaded with idiots) what incentive do you have to get off your ass and demand better scorecards, stiffer drug testing, or any thing else to make the sport better? Not much. It's human nature. They don't lose anything by doing nothing, and they don't really gain anything by doing something.

Even if you get someone who cares in a commission they are going to have to battle with others around them.

You're acting as if they're laundering millions of dollars from boxing and milking these athletes dry.

You need to come better than that.

That was your assumption by what I meant. It is not what I meant.

[Kevin Malone]

partly thier fault and mostly the boxers camps fault......theyre both responsible....

this thread is about the failed pac vs floyd fight......

So when your argument fails any test of logic or challenge you say the thread is about Pac vs Floyd?

I see nothing in the OP or poll that says anything about Pac vs Floyd.