should a boxer be allowed to be a commisioner too when he fights?

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  • baracuda
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    #121
    Originally posted by Kevin Malone
    I didn't say it failed majority opinion. It fails logic.

    You state over and over how commissions have failed, bad decisions are handed down, and how they failed to catch cheaters.

    You want these same people to keep running the sport...
    youre the one who thinks boxers should be allowed to be commisioners and make make thier own rules...like one already said , conflict of interest...lol....who failed logic?...lol.

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    • carts
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      #122
      Originally posted by Get High
      It's his own life he is risking in the ring.
      if ur talkin about floyd i thought he said EASY FIGHT EASY WORK... RIGHT?

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      • Kevin Malone
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        #123
        Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
        Not a single person cared about the standards in place, even though, boxers have been getting caught cheating for the last 10 years or so. Not a single person had an issue with the commissions at hand.
        That's odd. I've seen a billion threads about bad decisions, judges that need to fired, worthless referees and cheaters.

        Seems people (and fighters) do have an issue.

        oh, and just so I can be included in what the thread is "really about" and discuss a fight that isn't happening: FlOYd IZ a beyotcCH, h3 wuz fin wit da tesTing b4 But wit P4c he be a *****!!..1111111

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        • Kevin Malone
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          #124
          Originally posted by baracuda
          youre the one who thinks boxers should be allowed to be commisioners and make make thier own rules...like one already said , conflict of interest...lol....who failed logic?...lol.

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          Where is the conflict of interest if both fighters agree?

          Hint: There isn't one.
          Last edited by Kevin Malone; 01-16-2010, 12:58 AM.

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          • Kevin Malone
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            #125
            Originally posted by TortillaWarrior

            I'm sorry that you haven't made a single valid point in this thread.

            "the commissions are out for themselves"
            "a boxer can fight for all commissions, but race car drivers can't"
            "if I made up my own commission".


            callate guey.
            What are you talking about. Commissions are out for themselves. If they weren't they wouldn't have laws in place protecting themselves and their monopoly.

            Your second quote is manufactured and backwards.

            My theoretical "commission" would be a private enterprise and free market. It would also be illegal, once again proving how asinine state commissions are.

            I think you, like most, are missing the point.

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            • baracuda
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              #126
              Originally posted by Kevin Malone
              Where is the conflict of interest if both fighters agree?

              Hint: There isn't one.
              floyd would'nt have a choice but to agree...he demanded it.....

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              • Kevin Malone
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                #127
                Originally posted by baracuda
                floyd would'nt have a choice but to agree...he demanded it.....
                As much as you or I don't like it he shouldn't be forced to fight if he doesn't want to.

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                • baracuda
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Kevin Malone
                  As much as you or I don't like it he shouldn't be forced to fight if he doesn't want to.
                  pac understands.........look what happened to hatton, hoya and cotto.....

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                  • Left2body
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                    #129
                    Boxers have been doing this for years.

                    Remember when negotiating fights only the most basic safety requirements are in place, nearly everything else is negotiable.

                    Things that have and are still negotiated ALL the time:
                    Types of gloves
                    Ring Size
                    Standing 8 count or no
                    3 knock down rule or no
                    Size of gloves for WW's 8oz or 10oz its not always a given especially in Nevada
                    Catch-weights
                    Judges
                    Ref
                    .....etc etc

                    Not to mention fighters also negotiate protocal for IF a fighter doesn't make weight, including fines, Max fight night weight.......etc.

                    So yeah, fighters have been and will continue to be part commissioner for their own fights.

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                    • rommel357
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Kevin Malone
                      That is much different.

                      In auto racing their rules are not created and enforced by a government body. NASCAR or Indy racing is a private body with voluntary competitors who agree to the standards set. If you do not like the official NASCAR or Indy rules or commission you are free to compete in another league or even start your own. You can still race for paychecks legally without the official grace of NASCAR. You can not box for paychecks legally without the official grace of state commissions.

                      The same applies to most other professional sports. MMA I'm not so sure about...
                      That's part of enforcing the rules. In NASCAR you have a limiter as a rule to keep the playing field even. That ruling is enforced and regulated, if violated you will be fined and suspended. Don't like it, GTFO. They also have rules in what type of engine you can use and how much power it can make, rules on car safety, design, dimensions, and weight of the car. These are all enforced and regulated by the governing body of NASCAR. Not necessarily a commission type body of governing, but it is still governed with a set of rules and standards.

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