Who has a greater legacy, Joe Calzaghe or Ronald Wright?

[IMDAZED]

Does it matter. I know Hopkins would not of got outworked in two fights against Taylor and Calzahe because he could not keep pace.

I see your trying to set a trap to say Eastman was before the Taylor fights but lets look at commonsense, Hopkins was probably on his way down after the Tito fight he was 36 when he beat Tito.

You dont like answering other peoples questions do you?

I'm not setting a trap. Don't have to. Bernard Hopkins was the best LHW in the world when Calzaghe fought him. Past his prime or not - which I agree he was.

[AKATheMack]

What makes you so sure he fought better? He's had that come forward style for years. Years. Before Vargas. He couldn't impose his will on Vargas like that - that's all. And the out of shape Vargas fought him tooth and nail. The same Vargas who Trinidad damn near sent to the mortuary.

If you never noticed that Winky became more aggressive later in his career, you may want to study some tapes. He was moving backwards in the Vargas fight because at that point in his career he was more of a boxer. Later in his career he attempted to become more fan friendly and became a more effective fighter because of it.

[IMDAZED]

If you never noticed that Winky became more aggressive later in his career, you may want to study some tapes. He was moving backwards in the Vargas fight because at that point in his career he was more of a boxer. Later in his career he attempted to become more fan friendly and became a more effective fighter because of it.

I think you should watch tapes. Because Winky used to come forward then as well. In fact, he fought just like Ike Quartey.

[Dynamite Kid]

Basically you're dancing around the issue to cover your own ******ity. Im kinda bored making jokes so I'll just say it. Quartey and Tito were not "elite and in their prime" when Winky beat them, yet you keep trying to pass them off as such. Strange.

Btw....I never even mentioned Hopkins. Stop reaching.

Man! i gotta argue with someone who aint seen half the fights we talking about lol


Quartey just coming off a decision loss to Forrest in which he got robbed

Tito blasted Mayorga before that and would of had major trouble with Wink at any point in his career. Tito was clearly not shot, not old.

Easy that was. Tito was clearly still an elite fighter he just met a guy that gave most!! people stylistic nightmares thats why so many ducked him.

[IMDAZED]

Man! i gotta argue with someone who aint seen half the fights we talking about lol


Quartey just coming off a decision loss to Forrest in which he got robbed

Tito blasted Mayorga before that and would of had major trouble with Wink at any point in his career. Tito was clearly not shot, not old.

Easy that was. Tito was clearly still an elite fighter he just met a guy that gave most!! people stylistic nightmares thats why so many ducked him.

What shows that Tito was still elite? Because he blasted Ricardo Mayorga at 160?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Man! i gotta argue with someone who aint seen half the fights we talking about lol


Quartey just coming off a decision loss to Forrest in which he got robbed

Tito blasted Mayorga before that and would of had major trouble with Wink at any point in his career. Tito was clearly not shot, not old.

Easy that was. Tito was clearly still an elite fighter he just met a guy that gave most!! people stylistic nightmares thats why so many ducked him.

You've already said Tito was out of his prime and that its arguable if Quartey was ever elite.

Nothing more needs to be said.

[AKATheMack]

I think you should watch tapes. Because Winky used to come forward then as well. In fact, he fought just like Ike Quartey.

I never said he didnt come forward then I said he became more aggressive over the years. He also stopped moving backward as much and just went into the shell and absorbed the shots instead of retreating. You honestly notice no difference in Winkys style from Vargas to Trinidad?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What shows that Tito was still elite? Because he blasted Ricardo Mayorga at 160?

Yes that is the acid test.

[Dynamite Kid]

I'm not setting a trap. Don't have to. Bernard Hopkins was the best LHW in the world when Calzaghe fought him. Past his prime or not - which I agree he was.

That dont mean anything that is just a sad reflection of the division. Hatton was 140lbs king pin for how many years that dont meant he was the ****.

You duck question after question you do.

Can i clear something up, do you think Hopkins was elite when he fought Joe and that Tito was not when he fought Wink?

[IMDAZED]

I never said he didnt come forward then I said he became more aggressive over the years. He also stopped moving backward as much and just went into the shell and absorbed the shots instead of retreating. You honestly notice no difference in Winkys style from Vargas to Trinidad?

That style dates back to when he used to fight in France. So again, I urge you to go watch the tapes. And no, I didn't notice a difference in Winky's style. I noticed a different opponent, though.