Who has a greater legacy, Joe Calzaghe or Ronald Wright?

[IMDAZED]

When his psychical restricted him from doing what he wanted in the ring. Do you seriously think an elite fighter stepped in the ring with Jermain Taylor & Joe Calzaghe ?Hopkins tires now due to age and his reflexes diminished a long time ago he lives on his elite skills and timing these days.

If you think Hopkins could not set a pace you should watch his fights with Mercado 1+2, Johnson because that Hopkins aint fading the way the Hopkins who stepping in the ring with Calzaghe did.

Another thing if an elite Hopkins did step in the ring with Joe then you would agree that Joe beats him in his prime to?

I cant believe you think Tito that fought Wink was not longer elite but Hopkins is.

So what fight did you realize that Hops was no longer elite? Specifically? Joppy? Eastman?

[Mojita]

Joe will always be over rated.

His best wins are Eubank, Kessler and Hopkins.

What Legacy is that? People say he was king of SMW but he defended the majority of his defenses againest unknowns. Be real now. People say Hopkins won that fight as well.

Joe could have been something more had he fought better fighters earlier and won. Then you can say he has a good legacy.

But this shouldnt be questioned, Wright has the better legacy. Regardless if he defended less than Calzaghe. His quality of opposition surpasses Calz by a long shot.

[IMDAZED]

I agree that Calzaghe is overrated - especially after that recent list that places him above Hopkins. That said, he is a notch above Winky Wright.

[AKATheMack]

So his prime came to fruition when he changed his style?

Wow.

No how well you fight at a certain point has nothing to do with prime. Genius. Of course when he was performing at his best that is considered his prime. What else would determine it? His physical prime means nothing if he would to lose to a version with better technique. The BEST version of a fighter is that fighter in his prime.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Are we going to pretend that Winky wasnt avoided? Im not usually with that so and so is ducking so and so, but Winky was really good and not worth much money. There is a reason nobody wanted to fight him.

Yeah he was. And?

[IMDAZED]

No how well you fight at a certain point has nothing to do with prime. Genius. Of course when he was performing at his best that is considered his prime. What else would determine it? His physical prime means nothing if he would to lose to a version with better technique. The BEST version of a fighter is that fighter in his prime.

Exactly but you said Winky wasn't in his prime when he fought Vargas.

[AKATheMack]

Exactly but you said Winky wasn't in his prime when he fought Vargas.

Exactly because he fought BETTER later in his career. Therefore he was in his prime those fights that he fought better not the one when he wasnt fighting at his best.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When his psychical restricted him from doing what he wanted in the ring. Do you seriously think an elite fighter stepped in the ring with Jermain Taylor & Joe Calzaghe ?Hopkins tires now due to age and his reflexes diminished a long time ago, he lives on his elite skills and timing these days.

If you think Hopkins could not set a pace you should watch his fights with Mercado 1+2, Johnson because that Hopkins aint fading the way the Hopkins who stepping in the ring with Calzaghe did.

Another thing if an elite Hopkins did step in the ring with Joe then you would agree that Joe beats him in his prime to?

I cant believe you think Tito that fought Wink was no longer elite but Hopkins is.

Basically you're dancing around the issue to cover your own ******ity. Im kinda bored making jokes so I'll just say it. Quartey and Tito were not "elite and in their prime" when Winky beat them, yet you keep trying to pass them off as such. Strange.

Btw....I never even mentioned Hopkins. Stop reaching.

[Dynamite Kid]

So what fight did you realize that Hops was no longer elite? Specifically? Joppy? Eastman?

Does it matter. I know Hopkins would not of got outworked in two fights against Taylor and Calzahe because he could not keep pace.

I see your trying to set a trap to say Eastman was before the Taylor fights but lets look at commonsense, Hopkins was probably on his way down after the Tito fight he was 36 when he beat Tito.

You dont like answering other peoples questions do you?

[IMDAZED]

Exactly because he fought BETTER later in his career. Therefore he was in his prime those fights that he fought better not the one when he wasnt fighting at his best.

What makes you so sure he fought better? He's had that come forward style for years. Years. Before Vargas. He couldn't impose his will on Vargas like that - that's all. And the out of shape Vargas fought him tooth and nail. The same Vargas who Trinidad damn near sent to the mortuary.