Why PBF can never be a ATG!!!!!

[hugh grant]

Ah.

Consider, as a pac fan. Floyd Mayweather will be Pac's most impressive win. One that Pac would be more than happy retiring on. That speaks volumes in and of itself about Floyd's status, doesn't it? Also look how he has dominated the market, that also says something.

I believe Floyd's resume below 140 alone makes him an ATG, and he has ATG skill regardless.




As for how high, that remains to be seen. What if he beats Pac twice, the winner of SSM/Berto, and say...martinez or williams?

I would place him very very high. As should anyone in that scenario

I think PBFs resume is good in his past. But i think anyone would leave off his win over hatton, JMM. His win over DLH should be put into perspective considering DLH was at the tail end of his career. If you want to use his win over DLH to assess where he is all time, use caution.

So everything he did under 140 is what people should use to assess his career. Pac certainly has been more impressive in the higher weights.

[COACH WEBB]

I think PBFs resume is good in his past. But i think anyone would leave off his win over hatton, JMM. His win over DLH should be put into perspective considering DLH was at the tail end of his career. If you want to use his win over DLH to assess where he is all time, use caution.

So everything he did under 140 is what people should use to assess his career. Pac certainly has been more impressive in the higher weights.

yea, you are just trolling around.

[Adamantium]

No, he has fought someone great if he beats Pac. Because Pac is in his prime and is an ATG already waiting for him.
PBF is not picking the weight like he did against Hatton and Co.

Floyd offered Hatton and Cotto a fight at 140 lbs and they both turned him down. When Hatton called him out, Floyd said he was willing to fight for Hattons LWW belt but Hatton said he wanted to fight for Floyds ww belt. The Marquez fight was really about proving that he was a bigger name than pac, by having greater ppv buys against common opponents. If you remember Arum was at one point talking about 65-35, now they are doing it 50-50.

[Adamantium]

I think PBFs resume is good in his past. But i think anyone would leave off his win over hatton, JMM. His win over DLH should be put into perspective considering DLH was at the tail end of his career. If you want to use his win over DLH to assess where he is all time, use caution.

So everything he did under 140 is what people should use to assess his career. Pac certainly has been more impressive in the higher weights.

Floyd fought DLH at a higher weight and wasnt allowed to use the gloves he wanted, to protect his hands.

[Calilloyd]

yea, you are just trolling around.

That's all he ever does.

[El Jesus]

Yeah, he beat Gatti in Atlantic city,

mayweather lives in vegas, but when is the crowd ever in his favor? very rarely. if hes fighting an ethnic contingent, hell always be the one whos hated, when he fought jesus chavez out here, he was definately NOT the guy people favorited with all the mexicans on chavez back

[DuttyAlacrity]

The fact that manny has 4 lineal Titles automatically makes him an ATG IMO
adding to that the two battles with JMM and his dismantling of cotto, almost makes it undeniable

[jrosales13]

Floyd offered Hatton and Cotto a fight at 140 lbs and they both turned him down. When Hatton called him out, Floyd said he was willing to fight for Hattons LWW belt but Hatton said he wanted to fight for Floyds ww belt. The Marquez fight was really about proving that he was a bigger name than pac, by having greater ppv buys against common opponents. If you remember Arum was at one point talking about 65-35, now they are doing it 50-50.

Why would an elite fighter like Floyd want to fight a prospect like Cotto at 140? Why not try to fight Cotto when Cotto became elite at 147?

Wasn't Hatton signed to Showtime at the time? How could he and Floyd fight? When Floyd was an HBO fighter...

Now yes Floyd has greater PPV buys against common opponents like Oscar and Hatton and Pac. But, you really can not count the JMM PPV as a common opponent...

[jrosales13]

Floyd fought DLH at a higher weight and wasnt allowed to use the gloves he wanted, to protect his hands.

I thought Floyd said the reason he didn't stop Oscar. Was cuz he had pillows as gloves?

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=jrosales13;6984481]Why would an elite fighter like Floyd want to fight a prospect like Cotto at 140? Why not try to fight Cotto when Cotto became elite at 147?


Cotto was not a prospect at the time. He had a belt and had beaten some very solid fighters at 140.