Why PBF can never be a ATG!!!!!

[hugh grant]

I disagree bro, floyd could still be higher than pac in the atg list if floyd beat cotto, mosley, margarito and p. williams which i think he has a great chance to win those fights.

Nah the way Pac destroyed Cotto, and SSM destroyed Marge PBF would basically be taking people who really hurt each other. He should have took those fights much earlier. Left it too late there.
He needs to look up the weights a bit maybe. Paul Williams would be a good start.

[COACH WEBB]

according to who? someone who doesnt know jack **** about boxing maybe. the fights you mentioned were big mainstream fights, but real fans know which fights were real challenges.. diego corrales and genaro hernandez are his biggest wins imo, and they are both extremely impressive.

dude, floyd beats hatton any weight, any arena, any time of the day, all week. and fighting hatton at 147 was so he could keep his title, he held one at 147 and one at 154, and he needed to choose which to keep. he already fought once at 154 in his last fight so if he wanted to keep his WW belt he had to defend it. to discredit his win over hatton completely bcuz of it is just ignorant.

interesting how you critisize floyd for making hatton come up, calling him chicken bcuz of it. yet when pac makes DLH come down (much harder) he was a grown man and knew what he was doing. eighter neighter of them are chicken or both floyd and pac are chicken, dont be such a ****ing hypocrite. (nobody who fights for a living is really chicken).

yea..its that simple. but ppl will only spin things they way they want to. the TS even picked Hatton to win at 47...

[COACH WEBB]

Nah the way Pac destroyed Cotto, and SSM destroyed Marge PBF would basically be taking people who really hurt each other. He should have took those fights much earlier. Left it too late there.
He needs to look up the weights a bit maybe. Paul Williams would be a good start.

"I've always said Ricky wasn't a welterweight and I wasn't interested in going back up to that division unless it was [against] Floyd because he's not such a big guy," added Graham.

"I don't think Floyd's any bigger than Ricky, whereas a lot of the welterweights are."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/6920484.stm

[hugh grant]

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I guess home advantage is why Hatton beat Kostya...well, with your logic, no need to credit that win for Ricky..although that was CLEARLY his best win.

Quite possible. But Hatton also beat other guys without home advantage. Has PBF ever done that? Dont think so?

[hugh grant]

Hatton didnt fight well at 147. PBF knew that and hatton knew that. But because hatton didnt think PBF was as good as people had said, hatton fancied his chances against PBF.

But hatton underestimated the hinderance 147 would be in hindsight. Hatton did want PBF at 140 but wasnt going to argue to death at it. He wanted PBF at the end of the day. PBF didnt hold any titles at 140 and hadnt fought at 140. It would be held against him he didnt venture into the 140 weight.

[COACH WEBB]

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Quite possible. But Hatton also beat other guys without home advantage. Has PBF ever done that? Dont think so?

"I've always said Ricky wasn't a welterweight and I wasn't interested in going back up to that division unless it was [against] Floyd because he's not such a big guy," added Graham.

"I don't think Floyd's any bigger than Ricky, whereas a lot of the welterweights are."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/6920484.stm

[COACH WEBB]

Hatton didnt fight well at 147. PBF knew that and hatton knew that. But because hatton didnt think PBF was as good as people had said, hatton fancied his chances against PBF.

But hatton underestimated the hinderance 147 would be in hindsight.

"I've always said Ricky wasn't a welterweight and I wasn't interested in going back up to that division unless it was [against] Floyd because he's not such a big guy," added Graham.

"I don't think Floyd's any bigger than Ricky, whereas a lot of the welterweights are."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/6920484.stm

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Quite possible. But Hatton also beat other guys without home advantage. Has PBF ever done that? Dont think so?

Yeah, he beat Gatti in Atlantic city,

[Xyei]

What's the most impressive thing Floyd has done in the last 7 years?

Dude, what do you mean? I think you might have forgot but Floyd beat Big Show dude. He's like 10 times bigger than Floyd and Floyd knocked his ass out, son. Quit bein a hater.

Seriously though, moving up to 154 and beating Oscar was good and so was beating the undefeated Hatton.

[Syf]

I dont create many threads. But having to put up with so many concerning Pac and PBF, i thought i would get something off of my chest.

The title of my thread is wrong and they didnt let me correct it. Its not that i dont think PBF is an ATG. I dont think he should be a HIGH ATG

Ah.

Consider, as a pac fan. Floyd Mayweather will be Pac's most impressive win. One that Pac would be more than happy retiring on. That speaks volumes in and of itself about Floyd's status, doesn't it? Also look how he has dominated the market, that also says something.

I believe Floyd's resume below 140 alone makes him an ATG, and he has ATG skill regardless.




As for how high, that remains to be seen. What if he beats Pac twice, the winner of SSM/Berto, and say...martinez or williams?

I would place him very very high. As should anyone in that scenario