Why PBF can never be a ATG!!!!!

[hugh grant]

if what you say is true, WHY did you pick Hatton to beat Floyd....AT 47?

Because even with PBFs advantages on paper, ie Hatton coming up, home advantage etc, i didnt think PBF was that good, so i thought Hatton still had a chance. He did better than i thought.

But thats not saying much is it?

[hugh grant]

You have gone downhill as a poster..

You really Jones'ed your posting career

I dont create many threads. But having to put up with so many concerning Pac and PBF, i thought i would get something off of my chest.

The title of my thread is wrong and they didnt let me correct it. Its not that i dont think PBF is an ATG. I dont think he should be a HIGH ATG

[Liar]

Because even with PBFs advantages on paper, ie Hatton coming up, home advantage etc, i didnt think PBF was that good, so i thought Hatton still had a chance. He did better than i thought.

But thats not saying much is it?

How did Hatton do better than you thought?

You thought he was going to win. But he was KO'd

Hence, he did a lot worse than you thought

[hugh grant]

How did Hatton do better than you thought?

You thought he was going to win. But he was KO'd

Hence, he did a lot worse than you thought

You misunderstood me. I said even though PBF gave himself the best opportunity to beat Hatton i still thought hatton would beat PBF. Which means at the time i didnt rate PBF that much.
I rate PBF a little higher now, because he did beat hatton, although he helped himself with home advantage, fighting at 147 etc

[pasawayako]

Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be an ATG without having fought anyone good in your whole career?

His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.

I disagree bro, floyd could still be higher than pac in the atg list if floyd beat cotto, mosley, margarito and p. williams which i think he has a great chance to win those fights.

[#1Assassin]

Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be an ATG without having fought anyone good in your whole career?

His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.

according to who? someone who doesnt know jack **** about boxing maybe. the fights you mentioned were big mainstream fights, but real fans know which fights were real challenges.. diego corrales and genaro hernandez are his biggest wins imo, and they are both extremely impressive.

dude, floyd beats hatton any weight, any arena, any time of the day, all week. and fighting hatton at 147 was so he could keep his title, he held one at 147 and one at 154, and he needed to choose which to keep. he already fought once at 154 in his last fight so if he wanted to keep his WW belt he had to defend it. to discredit his win over hatton completely bcuz of it is just ignorant.

interesting how you critisize floyd for making hatton come up, calling him chicken bcuz of it. yet when pac makes DLH come down (much harder) he was a grown man and knew what he was doing. eighter neighter of them are chicken or both floyd and pac are chicken, dont be such a ****ing hypocrite. (nobody who fights for a living is really chicken).

[COACH WEBB]

Because even with PBFs advantages on paper, ie Hatton coming up, home advantage etc, i didnt think PBF was that good, so i thought Hatton still had a chance. He did better than i thought.

But thats not saying much is it?

"I've always said Ricky wasn't a welterweight and I wasn't interested in going back up to that division unless it was [against] Floyd because he's not such a big guy," added Graham.

"I don't think Floyd's any bigger than Ricky, whereas a lot of the welterweights are."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/6920484.stm

[pasawayako]

This fight is just about pac, this fight is just another defining victory for pac if ever he win. But for floyd if ever he win this will be just like a regular victory for him because of the size and weight who will in favor for floyd and people are expecting him to win.

[COACH WEBB]

You misunderstood me. I said even though PBF gave himself the best opportunity to beat Hatton i still thought hatton would beat PBF. Which means at the time i didnt rate PBF that much.
I rate PBF a little higher now, because he did beat hatton, although he helped himself with home advantage, fighting at 147 etc

I guess home advantage is why Hatton beat Kostya...well, with your logic, no need to credit that win for Ricky..although that was CLEARLY his best win.

[COACH WEBB]

This fight is just about pac, this fight is just another defining victory for pac if ever he win. But for floyd if ever he win this will be just like a regular victory for him because of the size and weight who will in favor for floyd and people are expecting him to win.

size and weight will not be a problem in this fight...Pac just fought Miguel at albeit at 145, but no excuses about the weight.