Why PBF can never be a ATG!!!!!

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  • MakeDamnSure
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    #121
    Floyd has been at 147 lbs for almost 5 years now and the best fighter he fought was Baldomir.

    He was too scared to fight Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Williams and even Clottey. He retired and waited everyone to fight each other and lose so Floyd will have ane xcuse not to fight them.

    Thank Goodness not everyone was Fooled.. There are some though lol
    Last edited by MakeDamnSure; 12-19-2009, 08:11 AM.

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    • Syf
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      #122
      ^ Nah...

      Best fight hes fought at WW is either Judah, or Hatton. Not Baldy.

      Even Mitchel was a better fight than Baldy


      Btw, Emanuele Steward wanted to see a Sharmba Mitchell, Floyd matchup... he even said the fight would be a tossup. Roy suggested the Judah fight. Lampley and Roy suggested the Hatton fight. Brian Kenny pushed for the Baldy fight.. And people would have mocked Floyd for ducking JMM, if he hadn't answered JMM's challenge.

      Its easy to criticize stuff that has already come to pass. But the fact remains people were calling for those fights, and Floyd did them. I've no doubt in my ****ing mind that if he had fought, Cotto, and Margarito and Clottey, in some alternate universe, instead of those he has fought,

      The accusations of him ducking would still exist, just with different fighters. Get a grip, people. Try to downgrade from making hate a full time job, to going part time. It will be good for your soul

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      • Ray*
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        #123
        Originally posted by Syf
        ^ Nah...

        Best fight hes fought at WW is either Judah, or Hatton. Not Baldy.

        Even Mitchel was a better fight than Baldy


        Btw, Emanuele Steward wanted to see a Sharmba Mitchell, Floyd matchup... he even said the fight would be a tossup. Roy suggested the Judah fight. Lampley and Roy suggested the Hatton fight. Brian Kenny pushed for the Baldy fight.. And people would have mocked Floyd for ducking JMM, if he hadn't answered JMM's challenge.Its easy to criticize stuff that has already come to pass. But the fact remains people were calling for those fights, and Floyd did them. I've no doubt in my ****ing mind that if he had fought, Cotto, and Margarito and Clottey, in some alternate universe, instead of those he has fought,

        The accusations of him ducking would still exist, just with different fighters. Get a grip, people. Try to downgrade from making hate a full time job, to going part time. It will be good for your soul

        People did actually mock him for not responding to JMM.

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        • Syf
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          #124
          Good...

          then that further cements my point

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          • Boss Don
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            #125
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be a high ATG without having fought anyone close to great in your whole career?

            His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
            Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

            He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

            When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.
            what are you talking about Floyd is a ATG right now and can retire today and will be know as one the of the greatest pure boxers of all time and maybe the best

            you say he hasn't fought anyone but what about Genaro Hernandez or Angel Manfredy or Diego Corrales or Jesus Chavez or Jose Luis Castillo

            Floyd has always fought the best his whole career and still is now and you Pacfans try to say Pacquiao better then Floyd because he beat guys that Floyd already beat how does that sound??

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            • Boss Don
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              #126
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              What's the most impressive thing Floyd has done in the last 7 years?
              go up tp 154 to beat De La Hoya and gain 6th world championship

              have the highset selling boxing PPV in history

              knock out Ricky Hatton while he was undefeated

              come back after a two year layoff and dominate the #2 p4p guy

              and have the first PPV to do a million PPV buys in 2009

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                #127
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be a high ATG without having fought anyone close to great in your whole career?

                His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
                Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.
                Hugh I'm sorry to say that the accumulated punishment you have taken over your posting career due to the severe rebuttals, have taken their toll on your mind and body and you are now completely shot as a poster. My recommendation is to retire now while the going is good, and save your self from further injury, think about your loved ones.
                Last edited by Adamantium; 12-20-2009, 08:41 AM.

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                • jkaisen41
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be a high ATG without having fought anyone close to great in your whole career?

                  His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
                  Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

                  He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

                  When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.
                  I don't know if I should take posters like you seriously... if you are so smart then tell US all which fighters were around Mayweathers weight class that were great and had the stature of an Duran, Leonard, Hagler whatever...

                  PLZ spare us some big laughs and don't come with Margarito or something.

                  I said it before Pacquiao can be happy that he had greats around him... and he beat them... so what says it then about Mayweather if he beats Pacquiao??? Pacquiao has the names and one hell of an resume... but Floyd has a very good body of art... his reign at 130 is better then any reign Pacquiao ever had... he fought more champions then Pacquiao did... Pacquiao was in more weight classes and has more titles... all-time great has no meaning whatsoever... because you can only do what you can do in your time... if Mayweather beats Pacquiao... Mayweather is the best of his time... does that rank him higher then Pacquiao all-time??? I don't know... I personally don't think so... but it still doesn't change that Pacquiao in the ring can't **** with Mayweather... if you want your all-time place here you have it... who cares...

                  If you post Marquez, DLH and Hatton as his biggest accomplishments since when do you look boxing and how old are you... I understand that haters always only go so far back as they like... you are an good example...

                  And Hatton wasn't an man and could decide if he wants to fight at 147 or don't??? You are a hater dude... that's all... if DLH makes a decision he is a man... but Hatton don't... by the way Hatton had won a championship at 47 just two fights before... DLH hasn't fought at WW since when??? Pure hate dude... you should set your sould free... let all the hate go out the window... love is beautiful and can save you...

                  If the best fighter of his generation is on an all-time list and overarchieved by doing so... yes, who else is deserving *loooooooooooooooooool* Again... check out the song ''Dreamer''

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                  • COACH WEBB
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Syf
                    ^ Nah...

                    Best fight hes fought at WW is either Judah, or Hatton. Not Baldy.

                    Even Mitchel was a better fight than Baldy


                    Btw, Emanuele Steward wanted to see a Sharmba Mitchell, Floyd matchup... he even said the fight would be a tossup. Roy suggested the Judah fight. Lampley and Roy suggested the Hatton fight. Brian Kenny pushed for the Baldy fight.. And people would have mocked Floyd for ducking JMM, if he hadn't answered JMM's challenge.

                    Its easy to criticize stuff that has already come to pass. But the fact remains people were calling for those fights, and Floyd did them. I've no doubt in my ****ing mind that if he had fought, Cotto, and Margarito and Clottey, in some alternate universe, instead of those he has fought,

                    The accusations of him ducking would still exist, just with different fighters.
                    Get a grip, people. Try to downgrade from making hate a full time job, to going part time. It will be good for your soul
                    This is a good post right here. you made some good valid points sir and I'm not just saying that because I am a Mayweather fan.

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                    • KARATE KID09
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be a high ATG without having fought anyone close to great in your whole career?

                      His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
                      Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

                      He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

                      When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.


                      EXACTLY.

                      He will go down in history as biggest fraud ever.

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