Why PBF can never be a ATG!!!!!

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  • Shadow boxer 3
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    #111
    TS hasnt been watchin boxing very long

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    • COYS
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      #112
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Let alone a higher ATG than Pac? Can you be a high ATG without having fought anyone close to great in your whole career?

      His 3 biggest names are Hatton, DLH and JMM.
      Hatton was fighting at 147. If PBF didnt want people to criticise him he would have taken hatton at 140. But at the time PBF wasnt thinking clearly and about his legacy, and people not criticing him. All he wanted to do was give himself the best opportunity to beat hatton, which he wasnt sure he could at 140. That is a chicken to me, and not someone who was willing to take risks. It was someone who doubted his own abilities. Not someone who will go down as an ATG. Him fighting JMM is the same.

      He barely beat a past it DLH. Pac showed how you should deal with past it champions. Without making excuses about how good the DLH was that fought PBF and the DLH who fought Pac. DLH signed the contract to fight Pac at 147. He is a grown man and knew what he was doing. He thought he could beat Pac, as did everyone else.

      When youl look at it. If PBF even makes the ATG list, he will have overachieved and be proud of himself.

      they arn't floyds best wins

      hes already an ATG

      hatton loses to floyd everyday of the week and twice on sundays

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      • Bigchill79
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        #113
        But the PacMan is an atg by feasting on suspect leftovers.
        Last edited by Bigchill79; 12-15-2009, 04:14 PM.

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        • Adamantium
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          #114
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Why would an elite fighter like Floyd want to fight a prospect like Cotto at 140? Why not try to fight Cotto when Cotto became elite at 147?

          Wasn't Hatton signed to Showtime at the time? How could he and Floyd fight? When Floyd was an HBO fighter...

          Now yes Floyd has greater PPV buys against common opponents like Oscar and Hatton and Pac. But, you really can not count the JMM PPV as a common opponent...
          They made Cotto an offer, but Arum said Cotto wasn't ready yet. Hatton also said the same thing. Both Hatton and Cotto were belt holders at the time, Cotto had the WBO and im not sure what belt Hatton had maybe IBO.I havent got time to find a link, but ill send you it when I find it
          Last edited by Adamantium; 12-15-2009, 04:21 PM.

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          • bdevils
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            #115
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I thought Floyd said the reason he didn't stop Oscar. Was cuz he had pillows as gloves?
            Nope, he gave in to every demand and one was wearing reyes gloves. No pillows for that fight bud

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              #116
              Originally posted by Silver_Surfer
              They made Cotto an offer, but Arum said Cotto wasn't ready yet. Hatton also said the same thing. Both Hatton and Cotto were belt holders at the time, Cotto had the WBO and im not sure what belt Hatton had maybe IBO.I havent got time to find a link, but ill send you it when I find it
              Hatton and Floyd could not make a fight happen at the time. Hatton was a showtime fighter and Floyd was HBO... Please explain how they could of made that fight happen?

              Cotto was not elite at the time. Why was Floyd not as eager to fight Cotton. When Cotto became elite?

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                #117
                Originally posted by bdevils
                Nope, he gave in to every demand and one was wearing reyes gloves. No pillows for that fight bud
                Everybody gives in to every demand against Oscar

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                Here is the link read the 9th paragraph. He says and I quote. "The gloves they gave me were custom made pillows."

                He said it himself. I am not making this stuff up bud...

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                • mannyman
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                  #118
                  I wouldn't say Hatton DLH or JMM are his biggest fights. Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah and Gatti carried more weight. Mayweather can only be accused of not fighting the top WWs.

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                  • Adamantium
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Hatton and Floyd could not make a fight happen at the time. Hatton was a showtime fighter and Floyd was HBO... Please explain how they could of made that fight happen?

                    Cotto was not elite at the time. Why was Floyd not as eager to fight Cotto. When Cotto became elite?
                    Hattons team turned the fight down, saying that they were not ready for Floyd just yet. In terms of networks, if the money is right they can and will work things out.
                    Cotto was the WBO champion at 140 lbs. Neither May or Cotto tried to make a fight happen at 147 lbs. Neither of them called the other out or put an offer on the table.

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                    • Adamantium
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Ricky Hatton
                      Right after the Collazo fight Hatton said, quote, "I am not ready for the likes of a Mayweather".
                      (remove spaces)
                      http://www. east side boxing.com/news.php?p=20397&more=1

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