mosley is not the linear champ at ww..why do people think this??

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  • MANGLER
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    #51
    #1 can fight #3 for the Ring belt as long as #2 ain't got any victories over either of the other 2 guys. Pac-SSM or Pac-Mr boat buyer are for the Ring belt if they happen. SSM-Mr boat buyer wouldn't be for it.

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    • pelonxsoldier28
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      #52
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      some people feel he should be.

      marg and cotto last year was the #1 and #2 147 fighters when they fought (if you don't consider paul williams as a 147 fighter)

      since marg won , it's arguable he was the man at 147 (since paul moved up) and since mosley beat him , mosley should be the man.

      but now it's murky because 1. floyd came back and 2. pacquiao just beat the guy who beat mosley.
      took the words right out my mouth, although i thought mosely won that fight. imo mosely is the man a welter. and in order to be considered the best at welter you have to go threw him. floyd will never fight mosely, or pac-man. floyd should go back into retirement before he loses that 0.

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      • larry x
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        #53
        how did pacman jump to being the #1 ww??

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        • Easy-E
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          #54
          Originally posted by pelonxsoldier28
          took the words right out my mouth, although i thought mosely won that fight. imo mosely is the man a welter. and in order to be considered the best at welter you have to go threw him. floyd will never fight mosely, or pac-man. floyd should go back into retirement before he loses that 0.
          no. Pac is number 1 at welter now. If someone beat Pac, then they would be considered number 1 at welter.

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          • Shadows
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            #55
            Originally posted by mangler
            #1 can fight #3 for the Ring belt as long as #2 ain't got any victories over either of the other 2 guys. Pac-SSM or Pac-Mr boat buyer are for the Ring belt if they happen. SSM-Mr boat buyer wouldn't be for it.
            That's the jist of it.

            Pacquiao is considered a seven weight world champion because he won The Ring belts at 126 and 140, which in these particular cases, also happened to be lineal titles.
            Last edited by Shadows; 11-20-2009, 05:56 PM.

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            • horge
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              #56
              Originally posted by larry x
              he's just the #1 ww..the lineage was vacated when floyd retired....i keep hearing mosleys the linear champ over and over on here

              I don't recall anyone saying that.
              What was being said was:

              If Pac beats Shane/Berto, he has pretty solid claim to lineal title.

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              • hammerhiem
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                #57
                Vacant lineal belts are decided when the no1 and 2 in the division fight right?

                well Floyd vacated and then Cotto and marg fought as no1 & 2 so marg was the new lineal champion, SSM beat Marg ergo he is the lineal champion.

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                • araindon
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                  #58
                  Okay I hope I can shed some light on this....Floyd was the Lineal Champ, while Cotto was #1, Margarito #2, Williams #3, Mosley #4.......Mosley and Williams might have been the other way around, I can't remember.....so Floyd retired and NOW the title is vacant meaning a fight between #1 and #2 or #1 and #3 will crown a lineal/ring champion. Cotto (#1) and Marg (#2) ageee to fight, but the Ring Magazine, jokers that they are, decided they didn't know if Floyd would come back out of retirement or not, so they didn't put the vacant ring title on the line, but they should have because their rules state a fight between #1 and #2 or #1 and #3 crowns a champ....anyway, Margarito won....Williams left welterweight so now the rankings are like this....#1 Margarito, #2 Cotto and #3 Mosley.....Mosley and Margarito sign to fight and the ring decided AGAIN not to put the title on the line...BIG mistake. They said their reason was because again..."we're not sure if Floyd is retired or not and Williams might come back to the division"....which is ******, because Williams asked to be ranked as a light middleweight and Floyd officially announced his retirement so AGAIN the title should have been on the line! But it wasn't....so Mosley isn't lineal champ, but in many peoples eyes he is, because if the Ring put the title on the line in either of the two fights...the end result would be Mosley as Ring/Lineal Champ.
                  Last edited by araindon; 11-20-2009, 05:58 PM.

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                  • Shadow boxer 3
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by larry x
                    how did pacman jump to being the #1 ww??
                    i was wonderin the same thing. shane was #1. and pac beat cotto not shane

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #60
                      Let me get this straight if you are the lineal champ. And, then the WBO, WBC, IBF, or WBA strips you cuz you don't want to fight there #1 contender. Are you not the lineal champ at all anymore even though you never lossed it. But, you don't have a major belt. Are you still the lineal champ?

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