mosley is not the linear champ at ww..why do people think this??

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  • Bhopreign
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    #21
    No he's not linear, Floyd is the last in the lineage and no other welter today has been linear.

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    • Easy-E
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      #22
      Originally posted by Jack Burton
      He beat Baldomir, a guy w/ 12 losses and avoided Tony, Sugar, and the rest.

      Thats not lineal.



      So are you saying Berto is the lineal champ then?
      Wrong. You do not understand what lineal is. You can say Mosley is the best at welterweight, but not that he is the lineal champion.

      The lineal welterweight title went like this Floyd>Baldomir>Judah>Spinks>Mayorga>Forrest

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      • DikanRadeljak
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        #23
        MOSLEY is number 1 WW.

        For damn sure it aint a guy named FROID JR. who just beat featherweight in WW division,

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          #24
          Originally posted by Jack Burton
          You can argue semantics all day long, but bottom line is that Choogar is the man at WW.

          He beat the man, thus he is the man.

          /thread
          Sure, say he is the best at welter, and the man to beat, but he is not the lineal champion.
          /thread

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          • Chups
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            #25
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            No he's not linear, Floyd is the last in the lineage and no other welter today has been linear.
            Yes ......Floyd was the last lineal....but he retired so the lineal title will be up for grabs.

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            • mikelovesfood
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              #26
              Originally posted by larry x
              he's just the #1 ww..the lineage was vacated when floyd retired....i keep hearing mosleys the linear champ over and over on here
              I thought the fight between Marg vs. Cotto was to determine who was the best in the division?

              Your right. Who am I kidding? Floyd is the lineal champ at WW.

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                #27
                Originally posted by larry x
                he's just the #1 ww..the lineage was vacated when floyd retired....i keep hearing mosleys the linear champ over and over on here
                some people feel he should be.

                marg and cotto last year was the #1 and #2 147 fighters when they fought (if you don't consider paul williams as a 147 fighter)

                since marg won , it's arguable he was the man at 147 (since paul moved up) and since mosley beat him , mosley should be the man.

                but now it's murky because 1. floyd came back and 2. pacquiao just beat the guy who beat mosley.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Easy-E
                  Wrong. You do not understand what lineal is. You can say Mosley is the best at welterweight, but not that he is the lineal champion.

                  The lineal welterweight title went like this Floyd>Baldomir>Judah>Spinks>Mayorga>Forrest
                  You just diminished the term lineal even more w/ that statement.

                  In Floyds case just substitute "lineal" w/ "I fought the token paper champ and avoided the best fighters in the division to pick up a useless trinket."

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                  • Easy-E
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jack Burton
                    You just diminished the term lineal even more w/ that statement.

                    In Floyds case just substitute "lineal" w/ "I fought the token paper champ and avoided the best fighters in the division to pick up a useless trinket."
                    Lineal titles are reality and not always based on the passing of alphabet titles. If you dont understand the concept its really not worth discussing it with you.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Easy-E
                      It depends if there is a belt attached. Also if it is the actual lineal title. For example if Pac beat Mosley he would not be lineal champ, because Mosley was never really lineal champ.
                      Why would it depend if there is a belt attached? Barrera was the lineal champ and had a belt, Tapia had a belt. They decided to unify. Both gets stripped cuz they didn't want to fight the #1 contender who were some bums. And, Barrera beats Tapia and should of had 2 belts. But, the sorry ass alphabetical soups belts stripped so he had zero belts. Was he not the lineal champ still?

                      The WW title. Pac and Mosley is the top 2 rated fighters. If they fight how is the not for the lineal title? How do you win a vacant title then?

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