When floyd says "one demensional" i know exactly what he means, come read

[bojangles1987]

Yes Pac's style is an offensive one, but he has developed his defensive skills tremendously compared to how he used to be. You could see against Cotto that he actually had patience and used counter punching abilities no one gives him credit for. Combine that with the movement and speed and the guy is not that one dimensional.

By the way, Floyd has been more one dimensional than Pac has been lately.

[El Jesus]

It's true that Pacquiao didn't look as effective on offense when Cotto started moving around on him but you also have to remember that Cotto didn't win a round apart from maybe the 10th when he started moving around. I heard that Pacquiao was actually being merciful on Cotto and didn't really want to hit him anymore so that might have factored into why he never really pursued Cotto that intensely when Cotto moved around.

We must also remember that Pacquiao actually seems to get better fight by fight so the weaknesses you see in this fight might not be there the next time he fights because I think Roach will realize that Pacquiao has to work on cutting off the ring quicker while giving angles, I think he'll work with Pacquiao on that quite a bit if the Mayweather fight gets signed.

Plus it wasn't like Pacquiao didn't have any success at all at cutting off the ring on Cotto, he sometimes managed to back Cotto up to the ropes behind a double jab and then he'd flurry then voluntarily back off because of either what I mentioned before, his lack of desire in hurting Cotto or because he was being cautious.

Anyways, can Mayweather make Pacquiao look bad? Sure, I think Mayweather has the capability to make anyone look bad but does that mean I think he's a sure bet to win a fight between them? No, because Roach has come up with some really good gameplans and Pacquiao has been able to follow them very, very well and as I said, he seems to be improving fight by fight in different areas.

this is a great post, it should really be next to mine as a counter argument.

[wmute]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to El Jesus again.

Haven't read the forums in a while. Thanks for starting a great thread.

[wmute]

It seems like every good point has been made.

All I can say is I have been saying for a while that the guy to give PBF hell would be a left handed version of Pryor. Pac is the closest thing I have seen.

Mayweather smarts and the accuracy of that right hand spell a world trouble for Pacquiao.

Seems like we have a fight.

God of boxing make this happen. (and Bob Arum please disappear)

[DKing]

Not gonna read that.. But did u see how pac cut the ring so effectively? Cotto was backpedalling from the 6th on but still could not avoid pacs fury.. If pac is one dimensional then WTF does it say to all the opponents that have been KTFO by him??

Cotto had nothing left from in six and on he's been through many battles, but once Manny Pacquiao rocked him in the 5th Cotto was too hurt to recover.
Cotto just didn't have enough to fight like he started. He was tired and hurt. Cotto bruises to easily since the Margarito fight. It happen with Clottey and Clottey shouldn't had given him more trouble than Mosley, because he's isn't as fast, but Cotto had nothing left and only survive because Clottey isn't a fast pace fighter. Sure any faster fighter would have to be strong, because Clottey had the power to hurt Cotto. While Pacquiao had the power and to hurt him early and continue on later.

[JAB5239]

one other thing is that mayweather does alot of clinching on the inside, hes going to do his best to tie up pac, hell do everything he can to not let him get off.

I agree with much of what you wrote, but I keep thinking what if he fights Manny like he did Oscar? Floyd should beat Manny, but he can't spend that much time on the ropes against him. Just my opinion.

[BALLISTIC]

one other thing is that mayweather does alot of clinching on the inside, hes going to do his best to tie up pac, hell do everything he can to not let him get off.

he's going to get what hatton gets..

mark my words..floyd knows pac could drop him with one punch..

[djteo]

the last time i saw pac one dimensional was the first morales fight.

youv'e got to be out of your mind to call him that now, he's definately a complete fighter.

[Blue Heffner]

I agree with the post. My question to Pacquiao fans is why would Mayweather be considered to be everything negative because he doesn't want to exchange with a slugger? Any smart fighter will not engage with a slugger.

[Dynamite Kid]

Originally Posted by Silencers View Post
It's true that Pacquiao didn't look as effective on offense when Cotto started moving around on him but you also have to remember that Cotto didn't win a round apart from maybe the 10th when he started moving around. I heard that Pacquiao was actually being merciful on Cotto and didn't really want to hit him anymore so that might have factored into why he never really pursued Cotto that intensely when Cotto moved around.

We must also remember that Pacquiao actually seems to get better fight by fight so the weaknesses you see in this fight might not be there the next time he fights because I think Roach will realize that Pacquiao has to work on cutting off the ring quicker while giving angles, I think he'll work with Pacquiao on that quite a bit if the Mayweather fight gets signed.

Plus it wasn't like Pacquiao didn't have any success at all at cutting off the ring on Cotto, he sometimes managed to back Cotto up to the ropes behind a double jab and then he'd flurry then voluntarily back off because of either what I mentioned before, his lack of desire in hurting Cotto or because he was being cautious.

Anyways, can Mayweather make Pacquiao look bad? Sure, I think Mayweather has the capability to make anyone look bad but does that mean I think he's a sure bet to win a fight between them? No, because Roach has come up with some really good gameplans and Pacquiao has been able to follow them very, very well and as I said, he seems to be improving fight by fight in different areas.

Agree.

I think its a bit hash to get on Manny's back because he was not that! effective cutting the ring down, its not like Cotto was moving but more so running away from him, its pretty hard to catch anyone when they are moving that! much. The fact that Cotto was in no position to throw back should tell how much he was running as apose to moving and where his weight was distributed.


I also agree 100% with the last part, Manny hangs on Roach's every word and even though i dont think Roach is necessarily the best! trainer in the world, not that he is a poor trainer, he always!! comes up with good game plans and i think thats where his strength as a trainer lies.