When floyd says "one demensional" i know exactly what he means, come read

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  • V.WEBB
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    #131
    Originally posted by S.G.
    Aye I know what you mean, but Manny is also a high workrate fighter and as long as he keeps throwing, even if he's missing, he'll have a good chance at giving Floyd nightmares.
    I think his workrate will drop in this fight with Mayweather. A great or a good counterpuncher will drop the workrate of his opponent.

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    • SkillspayBills
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      #132
      It won't be a wipe out by stylistically Floyd is just a horrible style match up for Pac. Pac needs a stationary target to get his offense off. His speed of hand and feet allows him to hit the target and pop out before a counter attack. Counter punchers are his WORST type of opponents because if you time his incoming punch he can't get tagged. Floyd's the best in the world at this and his ability to adjust to Pac's speed will be key to victory. Once that happens it's DOMINATION.

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      • S.G.
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        #133
        Originally posted by SkillspayBills
        It won't be a wipe out by stylistically Floyd is just a horrible style match up for Pac. Pac needs a stationary target to get his offense off. His speed of hand and feet allows him to hit the target and pop out before a counter attack. Counter punchers are his WORST type of opponents because if you time his incoming punch he can't get tagged. Floyd's the best in the world at this and his ability to adjust to Pac's speed will be key to victory. Once that happens it's DOMINATION.
        I think you gotta be tough to beat Pac too. You gotta be able to spordically mix it up

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        • Pacquiao'd
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          #134
          Originally posted by S.G.
          I think you gotta be tough to beat Pac too. You gotta be able to spordically mix it up
          and may is tbest at doig that. pac is getting ko

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          • RubenSonny
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            #135
            Originally posted by El Jesus
            This isnt a disrespect to pac, Pacs legacy is currently ahead of floyds. If you know me, im not a hater, i have respected and followed pac longer than alot of you likely reading this thread


            . But when he says one demensional, i know what he means. Pacs diversity and angles are almost entirely offensive, and most of them come from when an opponent is stationary and attempting to trade. Alot of what he does works when an opponent is standing in front of him. For example, cotto was on the move, and jabbing, pac did absolutely nothing. All of the angles, diversity and his fantastic right hand are only effective if you are standing front of him either waiting for it or in the middle of an exchange. You take that away, and you can see floyds point.

            Think about this. A guy like floyd who can take you inside, outside, move and throws every punch in the book, is extremely diverse. People keep talking about the shoulder roll like its his only defense, this guy gives you a different look practically every round. Also, people talk about pacs "improved defense", im not really seeing that. What i see is a grade A chin and a mountain of punch resistence. What i also see is cotto, moved, jabbed, even when he had nothing, still snapped pacs head back, technicians like floyd see that stuff a mile away. Cotto also connected with looping arm punches that had no buisness connecting. Mayweather can also take the fight inside and he needs virtually no room to punch, ive yet to see pac in a phonebooth.

            Another thing that has to be noted. When pac moves his head to the right, the left hand over the top comes in every single time, cotto actually took a step back and threw a straight and stopped him in his tracks.

            Floyd is not going to do what cotto did which is stand in front of him and attempt to impose his will. If pac wants to have any chance against floyd, they have to prepare him for floyd to be on the move. Frankly this is a very difficult fight for pac. Ive already seen floyd adjust midfight countless times. If you are looking to the judah fight for success, dont, if thats the case, ill look to the morales fight. Both floyd and pac are improved from that time, however its pacs chin and his outstanding power that have carried him this far. also his quickness.

            Remember this also, floyd has a tendency to make fighters very wary of his accuracy which completely drops their punch output. Its not going to be a wipeout on either side.
            great great post, green k will be given when i have some, pac fans dont take this offensively actually read it, very good boxing insight.

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            • RubenSonny
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              #136
              Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
              I think his workrate will drop in this fight with Mayweather. A great or a good counterpuncher will drop the workrate of his opponent.
              true, people look at the punch stats for the clottey fight and think hes gonna throw that many punches at mayweather.

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              • Hi-Dro
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                #137
                he's just hating on Pac


                he knows whos the king

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by S.G.
                  I think you gotta be tough to beat Pac too. You gotta be able to spordically mix it up

                  Not really. Everyone who tried to mix it up with Pac, loss. EM the first time did none of that, beat him convincingly. Second and Third times, EM did what you said and loss horribly.


                  Like I say. Pacquiao is pretty easy to figure out. He is very linear. If you can match his speed. You can have a field day on him, specially if your a great defensive minded, counter puncher.

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                  • JK1700
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                    #139
                    The one thing about Pacquiao is that he cannot adjust in fights. And Mayweather adjusts and adapts better than any fighter I have ever seen. I think Pacquiao's style would make an easy night's work for Floyd but we'll have to wait and see if the fight happens

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                    • Bacatit
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                      #140
                      Great post very true.

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