When floyd says "one demensional" i know exactly what he means, come read

[baCCaT]

thats why training and preparation plays a big part in every fight for pac..

dont forget that they train and focus specifically to the opponents skills.

team pac will find a way to work around in these kinds of situation.

after the goal has been met.. then pac can go again to "pac mode" - others term it "one dimensional"

[KRITKL]

Hatton landed virtually nothing effective, that isnt a good example IMO.

However the second part of youre post is worth noting about Pacs body work.

Also, floyd WANTED hatton to come at him, the fact that they brought in the sparring partners they did told me that. Floyd outmuscled hatton, out worked him and beat him at his own game. They wanted that and it showed.

The Hatton example wasn't about him landing, more about being able to at least pressure him. Like you said, you can see Hatton's punches coming from a mile away, Manny's aren't as easy to see.
I think Pac's body shots will be very important against Floyd. That's the only way I see Pac being able to stop Floyds movement.
The last part could also be said about Pac's fight with Cotto, He beat a guy at his own game. Chopped him down and made him not want to be in the ring with him.

[El Jesus]

The Hatton example wasn't about him landing, more about being able to at least pressure him. Like you said, you can see Hatton's punches coming from a mile away, Manny's aren't as easy to see.
I think Pac's body shots will be very important against Floyd. That's the only way I see Pac being able to stop Floyds movement.
The last part could also be said about Pac's fight with Cotto, He beat a guy at his own game. Chopped him down and made him not want to be in the ring with him.

Id be shocked if pac got to floyds body, he doesnt give you any.

But this is why they fight the fights. I have no idea whatll happen.

[The Gambler1981]

Who is to say if Manny can overcome these stylistic issues, Floyd is the best fighter Manny will have ever fought but the same is true in reverse so I can understand certain qustions people have.

It is a true contrast of styles, but the bull does not beat the matador very often it is not impossible though.

[KRITKL]

Id be shocked if pac got to floyds body, he doesnt give you any.

But this is why they fight the fights. I have no idea whatll happen.

True that.
Just hope the fight gets made and we all get to watch it. Also nice to have intelligent conversation on NSB. I'm hit the sack, just finished work. See ya.

[shogunn]

You say "Floyd has never faced a fighter like Manny before" and cheekily write off Judah as if he's not a speedy southpaw just like Pac but yet have no comment about the fact that Pac has never faced a slick counter puncher in his WHOLE CAREER? Manny ducked every slick fighter he could have faced in the lower weights such as Guzman and Raheem and the last time he faced a genuine right handed fighter (Jmm) he was given fits, if people want to play this "Floyd hasn't seen anything like Pac" game then they better look at Pac's record because the guy has had 55 fights without facing a certain style of boxing, and at this stage of his career he's gonna be in for an almighty culture shock when he steps into the ring with Floyd, one can only assume that there's a good reason why Roach has kept him away from slick boxers thus far.

hold up, did just just compare front runner judah to Manny? I wasnt speaking in terms of which stance they fight in, but their offensive styles, movements, gameplans, strengths and weakness'. Other than being fast and a southpaw, judah is nothing like Manny. Dont kid yourself, that same judah got beat down by Cotto. Judah's cant adjust for **** in fights. And ducking raheem? youre done. I know for sure you dont even believe that garbage. This place is a joke.

[Silencers]

It's true that Pacquiao didn't look as effective on offense when Cotto started moving around on him but you also have to remember that Cotto didn't win a round apart from maybe the 10th when he started moving around. I heard that Pacquiao was actually being merciful on Cotto and didn't really want to hit him anymore so that might have factored into why he never really pursued Cotto that intensely when Cotto moved around.

We must also remember that Pacquiao actually seems to get better fight by fight so the weaknesses you see in this fight might not be there the next time he fights because I think Roach will realize that Pacquiao has to work on cutting off the ring quicker while giving angles, I think he'll work with Pacquiao on that quite a bit if the Mayweather fight gets signed.

Plus it wasn't like Pacquiao didn't have any success at all at cutting off the ring on Cotto, he sometimes managed to back Cotto up to the ropes behind a double jab and then he'd flurry then voluntarily back off because of either what I mentioned before, his lack of desire in hurting Cotto or because he was being cautious.

Anyways, can Mayweather make Pacquiao look bad? Sure, I think Mayweather has the capability to make anyone look bad but does that mean I think he's a sure bet to win a fight between them? No, because Roach has come up with some really good gameplans and Pacquiao has been able to follow them very, very well and as I said, he seems to be improving fight by fight in different areas.

[inxyoxfacex65]

I'm a Pac fan, but not to the point I'm on his jock. You made some really logical points here, which is why I believe Mayweather doesn't get the respect or credit he deserves. Styles make fights. Pacquiao might have a lot more trouble with Mayweather because he's an incredible counter-puncher, which is one of Pacman's most difficult styles to fight against. But then again, he improved tremendously from fights against JMM and Erik Morales. I think it would be a pretty even fight.

[Blue Heffner]

goodpost, green K.

i think floyd will tko or ko pac from accumulation.

Pac chin can withstand some good punishment. but that doesnt mean his brain can withstand the punishment of consistent, clean, hard, accurate blows connecting above 50%

especially if floyd opens up and throws punches like he did against Gatti

If Floyd opens up and thrown punches like he did against Gatti, it'd be a massacre. You'd see Pac fans get up and walk out of the fight. Floyd is going to make Pacquiao look foolish. And these people trying to rationalize and make reasonings for Pacquiao are idiots. Pacquiao hasn't seen anything close to a Mayweather since Marquez and Floyd is levels above him.

[PAKYO]

If Floyd opens up and thrown punches like he did against Gatti, it'd be a massacre. You'd see Pac fans get up and walk out of the fight. Floyd is going to make Pacquiao look foolish. And these people trying to rationalize and make reasonings for Pacquiao are idiots. Pacquiao hasn't seen anything close to a Mayweather since Marquez and Floyd is levels above him.

Will you put your house on it? I'm ready on my previous winnings, i can blow it all away.