When floyd says "one demensional" i know exactly what he means, come read

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Not gonna read that.. But did u see how pac cut the ring so effectively? Cotto was backpedalling from the 6th on but still could not avoid pacs fury.. If pac is one dimensional then WTF does it say to all the opponents that have been KTFO by him??

if your not going to bother reading a few paragraphs....don't reply to the TS.......

[dibzvincent143]

nice post! but i believed that there could be a better explanation than this from "with-sense-fans" but they're just tired to write it off because of *******s and *****s.

for me, pac is not one dimensional, but he just doesn't or couldn't adjust his style the way floyd can. if floyd really meant this one-dimensional pac thing i believe that it really refers to pac's style, if pac's enemy is against his style, he only make adjustments on his style and not trying to shift it to a completely counter style like floyd can.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

goodpost, green K.

i think floyd will tko or ko pac from accumulation.

Pac chin can withstand some good punishment. but that doesnt mean his brain can withstand the punishment of consistent, clean, hard, accurate blows connecting above 50%

especially if floyd opens up and throws punches like he did against Gatti

no brainer...he cant ko pac.....

[dibzvincent143]

no brainer...he cant ko pac.....

take note pac's chin aint greater than mosley's.
pac will get himself KOed if he gets too careless thinking floyd is that easy to hit..
and i strongly believed he can't make those 1300 punches he did against clottey.

[Devils Advocate]

nice post! but i believed that there could be a better explanation than this from "with-sense-fans" but they're just tired to write it off because of *******s and *****s.

for me, pac is not one dimensional, but he just doesn't or couldn't adjust his style the way floyd can. if floyd really meant this one-dimensional pac thing i believe that it really refers to pac's style, if pac's enemy is against his style, he only make adjustments on his style and not trying to shift it to a completely counter style like floyd can.

There are some many ways to analyze their fight. Pacquiao is a bonafide fighter and Mayweather is a cerebral boxer. Before Mayweather fought Castillo he was a masterful boxer, he jabbed more often and definately attacked more but I think he lost confidence in his power the higher up in weight he went. Before Castillo he was 26-0/20ko's and then after he became the cerebral boxer solely relying on defense, reflexes, pulled counters. Not the most crowd pleasing but it's what he's evolved into. Is it his hands or his confindense b/c I think he could have and should have stopped Shane Mosley.

[Devils Advocate]

take note pac's chin aint greater than mosley's.
pac will get himself KOed if he gets too careless thinking floyd is that easy to hit..
and i strongly believed he can't make those 1300 punches he did against clottey.

Every southpaw that has faced Mayweather has been lucky enough to stun Mayweather with that left I think the worst mistake Roach can make is trying to turn Pacquiao into a right handed fighter, he better turn Rocky off and let him press the attack he can get lucky with that left hand!

[dibzvincent143]

Every southpaw that has faced Mayweather has been lucky enough to stun Mayweather with that left I think the worst mistake Roach can make is trying to turn Pacquiao into a right handed fighter, he better turn Rocky off and let him press the attack he can get lucky with that left hand!

woah, not too fast man, i didn't say anything bout that. i just reacted to the comment of my real-friend that floyd couldn't ko pac, which i think is very false to ever think of.

but i do see your point. pac has been practising the orthodox stance since hatton fight though, so i wouldn't be surprise if he turns orthodox in some corners of the fight if he needed to.

pac being a southpaw is clearly one of his advantage agains floyd.

[dibzvincent143]

There are some many ways to analyze their fight. Pacquiao is a bonafide fighter and Mayweather is a cerebral boxer. Before Mayweather fought Castillo he was a masterful boxer, he jabbed more often and definately attacked more but I think he lost confidence in his power the higher up in weight he went. Before Castillo he was 26-0/20ko's and then after he became the cerebral boxer solely relying on defense, reflexes, pulled counters. Not the most crowd pleasing but it's what he's evolved into. Is it his hands or his confindense b/c I think he could have and should have stopped Shane Mosley.

floyd can still go back in his former self anytime he wants, imo. it's just that he's more comfortable with his style now, considering that its a much safer style not to lose his zero.

[dibzvincent143]

There are some many ways to analyze their fight. Pacquiao is a bonafide fighter and Mayweather is a cerebral boxer. Before Mayweather fought Castillo he was a masterful boxer, he jabbed more often and definately attacked more but I think he lost confidence in his power the higher up in weight he went. Before Castillo he was 26-0/20ko's and then after he became the cerebral boxer solely relying on defense, reflexes, pulled counters. Not the most crowd pleasing but it's what he's evolved into. Is it his hands or his confindense b/c I think he could have and should have stopped Shane Mosley.

floyd can still go back in his former self anytime he wants, imo. it's just that he's more comfortable with his style now, considering that its a much safer style not to lose his zero.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

This isnt a disrespect to pac, Pacs legacy is currently ahead of floyds. If you know me, im not a hater, i have respected and followed pac longer than alot of you likely reading this thread


. But when he says one demensional, i know what he means. Pacs diversity and angles are almost entirely offensive, and most of them come from when an opponent is stationary and attempting to trade. Alot of what he does works when an opponent is standing in front of him. For example, cotto was on the move, and jabbing, pac did absolutely nothing. All of the angles, diversity and his fantastic right hand are only effective if you are standing front of him either waiting for it or in the middle of an exchange. You take that away, and you can see floyds point.

Think about this. A guy like floyd who can take you inside, outside, move and throws every punch in the book, is extremely diverse. People keep talking about the shoulder roll like its his only defense, this guy gives you a different look practically every round. Also, people talk about pacs "improved defense", im not really seeing that. What i see is a grade A chin and a mountain of punch resistence. What i also see is cotto, moved, jabbed, even when he had nothing, still snapped pacs head back, technicians like floyd see that stuff a mile away. Cotto also connected with looping arm punches that had no buisness connecting. Mayweather can also take the fight inside and he needs virtually no room to punch, ive yet to see pac in a phonebooth.

Another thing that has to be noted. When pac moves his head to the right, the left hand over the top comes in every single time, cotto actually took a step back and threw a straight and stopped him in his tracks.

Floyd is not going to do what cotto did which is stand in front of him and attempt to impose his will. If pac wants to have any chance against floyd, they have to prepare him for floyd to be on the move. Frankly this is a very difficult fight for pac. Ive already seen floyd adjust midfight countless times. If you are looking to the judah fight for success, dont, if thats the case, ill look to the morales fight. Both floyd and pac are improved from that time, however its pacs chin and his outstanding power that have carried him this far. also his quickness.

Remember this also, floyd has a tendency to make fighters very wary of his accuracy which completely drops their punch output. Its not going to be a wipeout on either side.

Great post. The only thing I'd argue with is that Pac's ledger is not as far ahead of Floyd's as supposed. Ahead, yes, but not that far ahead. Close analysis can pick enough holes in a clutch of Pac's most famed wins to make it a lot closer than some would have you believe. Pacquiao's work can be pulled apart just as easily as Floyd's often is.

Not gonna read that..

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