Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford ticketed, held at gunpoint by Omaha police hours after his parade

[SUBZER0ED]

Once again you're believing what an article stated...based on what the police said.

Remember what the police said about the Tyree Nicholas killing? You're probably saying "who".

The video footage told another story altogether.

Let's see what this investigation shows.

But I'm sorry, based on everything that's been released so far, I'm sensing racial profiling, and untruths being told. I've lived this. Have you?

Answer me on this. Because you seem so sure of yourself.

Can you tell me what erratically driving looks like for someone who doesn't drink or do drugs?

I mentioned earlier that police pull Black and Brown people over all of the time for bogus infractions, hoping to find them in violation of something greater. Slapping Blacks and Brown people with tickets is an easy way for the government to generate millions of dollars. Folks are generally poor and can't afford to go to trial to fight these tickets on principal.

However, Bud has money. I believe he wasn't in the wrong. And will fight this on principal.

These are just my thoughts just as you have yours. Time will tell us everything that we truly need to know.

Yes, I based my thoughts on what I read. What else am I supposed to base them on? I didn't say what the article or cops said was factual, I said what it sounds like to me. As you said, we both have our thoughts about the situation, and only a full investigation may reveal the facts.

You mean Tyre Nichols? The Black man who was beat to death by five Black cops in Memphis? Yeah, I remember seeing that on the news. This isn't that, brother. And yeah, I've experienced racism. Having been Black all of my life, it was inevitable, lol. I damn near got shot by a fine ass white female cop, as I reached for my left-latching seatbelt with my right hand. I was driving a '69 F100 step-side PU and was pulled over for doing 38 in a 25. The chick thought I was reaching for a weapon, and she backed up half a step, put her hand on her weapon to unholster it. She yelled, "Whoa, what are you reaching for!?" Scared the shit out of me. I thought about commenting on her beauty later, but given the circumstances, I thought better of it.

Suggesting that one has to be drunk or high in order to drive erratically is erroneous.

[SUBZER0ED]

did this dim trooper not recognise his towns current most famous person LOL

something is not really adding up

I never met a brother from fooking Omaha Nebraska, ever, LOL.

[SUBZER0ED]

I cannot speak on racism being at play, only because I’m not from nor living in America so have no clue on relations between police and community. I hear things and see things. I also believe people’s lived experiences in this comment section who are far more educated on the matter than I am.

I also feel like there’s a sense of resentment on the police behalf and don’t like the fact Terence is this hometown hero with keys to the city essentially. Probably think they’re true heroes that don’t get the recognition they think they deserve. By the sounds of it some heads could roll at the PD involved. I’m sure whoever’s involved will be really sorry once they lose their job and pension! Terence is the king of Omaha right now and rightly so. God bless Bud Crawford and his family.

Or, Crawford may have been driving like a fool in bum fuck Omaha Nebraska @ 1:30am, because he thought everyone was asleep. He forgot about the cops working the night shift, though..

[Lefty0616]

Yes, I based my thoughts on what I read. What else am I supposed to base them on? I didn't say what the article or cops said was factual, I said what it sounds like to me. As you said, we both have our thoughts about the situation, and only a full investigation may reveal the facts.

You mean Tyre Nichols? The Black man who was beat to death by five Black cops in Memphis? Yeah, I remember seeing that on the news. This isn't that, brother. And yeah, I've experienced racism. Having been Black all of my life, it was inevitable, lol. I damn near got shot by a fine ass white female cop, as I reached for my left-latching seatbelt with my right hand. I was driving a '69 F100 step-side PU and was pulled over for doing 38 in a 25. The chick thought I was reaching for a weapon, and she backed up half a step, put her hand on her weapon to unholster it. She yelled, "Whoa, what are you reaching for!?" Scared the shit out of me. I thought about commenting on her beauty later, but given the circumstances, I thought better of it.

Suggesting that one has to be drunk or high in order to drive erratically is erroneous.

"Yeah, I remember seeing that on the news" .

That comment alone, let's me know your level of consciousness as a Black man. If you don't mind answering, where do you live?

[ShoulderRoll]

You’re doing it again. I didn’t say anything like that.

No dui/dwi ticket issued so he clearly wasn’t impaired. No speeding ticket either. So I am confused by what erratically means in this case?

Kindly address my point- that in a constitutional carry state the cop deals with stops with firearms regularly. Guns are allowed by law. The cop knows this. So what caused his reaction because it wasn’t the gun?

Fine. I’m the meantime can we discuss the cops actions visa vie living in a state where open carrry is allowed?

The cop had no way of knowing if Crawford was not impaired beforehand. All he knew for certain is that he was driving recklessly and there was a firearm on the floorboard. That’s enough justification to make everyone get out of the vehicle while being covered at gunpoint.

Open carry being allowed comes with responsibilities. One of them is that if you break the law while openly carrying there are enhanced penalties.

[champion4ever]

Or, Crawford may have been driving like a fool in bum fuck Omaha Nebraska @ 1:30am, because he thought everyone was asleep. He forgot about the cops working the night shift, though..

You do know that reckless driving is not a traffic or moving violation in most states right? No, in fact It’s a crime. A class A or B misdemeanor. If convicted one could face upwards to six months or a year in jail for it.

If Bud was truly driving recklessly then he would have been arrested, given a field sobriety test and not issued a citation. They would have immediately ordered him out of his vehicle with both of his hands up and cuffed him.

You don’t walk up to a reckless driver’s vehicle requesting driving credentials. The reason why they didn’t arrest Crawford because he was innocent and no laws had been broken.

So the cops lied. They violated his rights. They even confessed that Bud did not appear to them mentally impaired or had the stench of alcohol or drugs on his breath or in his system.

However, we still need to see the dash cam video in order to determine whether or not he was speeding. Unlike most on here; I am still willing to give Crawford his presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

[The Big Dunn]

The cop had no way of knowing if Crawford was not impaired beforehand. All he knew for certain is that he was driving recklessly and there was a firearm on the floorboard. That’s enough justification to make everyone get out of the vehicle while being covered at gunpoint.

Open carry being allowed comes with responsibilities. One of them is that if you break the law while openly carrying there are enhanced penalties.

He didn’t have to know it was Crawford. No proof provided he was driving erratically.

Not in an open carry state is a firearm on the floor a reason to stop anyone.

At this point since you keep repeating that it seems what you really mean but lack the courage to just post directly- you’re ok with cops behaving like this when the car has 4 black men in it because they saw a gun on the floor, regardless of the open carry laws.

My above opinion is consistent with the views you have expressed in other threads. That is scary.

Regarding driving recklessly- if he was running red lights and stop signs as has been alleged, why didn’t the police or mayor just say this? Takes away all the confusion about the stop. Doesn’t that seem fishy to you?

Kindly point to the part of the Nebraska law that states this outright about enhanced penalties?

If this is as you say, why wasn’t Crawford charged with any enhanced penalties?

[ShoulderRoll]

He didn’t have to know it was Crawford. No proof provided he was driving erratically.

Not in an open carry state is a firearm on the floor a reason to stop anyone.

At this point since you keep repeating that it seems what you really mean but lack the courage to just post directly- you’re ok with cops behaving like this when the car has 4 black men in it because they saw a gun on the floor, regardless of the open carry laws.

My above opinion is consistent with the views you have expressed in other threads. That is scary.

Regarding driving recklessly- if he was running red lights and stop signs as has been alleged, why didn’t the police or mayor just say this? Takes away all the confusion about the stop. Doesn’t that seem fishy to you?

Kindly point to the part of the Nebraska law that states this outright about enhanced penalties?

If this is as you say, why wasn’t Crawford charged with any enhanced penalties?

Don’t play the race card on me. I have nothing against black men or women.

Crawford wasn’t stopped because of the firearm. The vehicle was driving erratically is why he was stopped, then on top of that there was a gun on the floor.

Heres an AI Overview of Nebraska law:

“In Nebraska, openly carrying a firearm while committing a crime can lead to significantly enhanced penalties, often elevating a misdemeanor offense to a felony. The specifics of the charge depend on the circumstances, such as the type of crime committed and the type of firearm used.“

In addition:

“How can open carry lead to criminal charges?
Even if you can legally carry a firearm, certain actions or behaviors can lead to criminal charges.

• Carrying while intoxicated: Possessing a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is illegal.
• Failure to inform law enforcement: If you are carrying and are contacted by law enforcement, Nebraska is one of the few "duty to inform" states. You must immediately notify the officer that you are carrying a firearm and where it is located.

[The Big Dunn]

Don’t play the race card on me. I have nothing against black men or women.

Crawford wasn’t stopped because of the firearm. The vehicle was driving erratically is why he was stopped, then on top of that there was a gun on the floor.

Heres an AI Overview of Nebraska law:

“In Nebraska, openly carrying a firearm while committing a crime can lead to significantly enhanced penalties, often elevating a misdemeanor offense to a felony. The specifics of the charge depend on the circumstances, such as the type of crime committed and the type of firearm used.“

In addition:

“How can open carry lead to criminal charges?
Even if you can legally carry a firearm, certain actions or behaviors can lead to criminal charges.

• Carrying while intoxicated: Possessing a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is illegal.
• Failure to inform law enforcement: If you are carrying and are contacted by law enforcement, Nebraska is one of the few "duty to inform" states. You must immediately notify the officer that you are carrying a firearm and where it is located.

Playing the race card is a a fake term used by people when they get fairly called out for disparate treatment based on race.

You have no proof he was driving erratically. You say you want to see the video but each time you mention this you make a definitive statement that he was driving erratically. You don’t even say alleged, giving him the same guilty until proven innocent standard you extend to different people.

You don’t even realize how bigotry is impacting your opinion and hypocrisy.

The mayor and chief already said all men in car were legally allowed to carry. No crime has been committed. No firearm was used in committing a crime in this instance. So stop playing yourself:

No drugs or alcohol involved. You can hear his security detail tell the cops he had a gun on the video from inside the car.

You literally have no leg to stand on my dude. Nothing you posted applies to this stop.

What you dodged, not surprisingly, was if he was running red lights and stop signs as alleged, why haven’t the mayor or chief or the cops just said so?

[champion4ever]

Don’t play the race card on me. I have nothing against black men or women.

Crawford wasn’t stopped because of the firearm. The vehicle was driving erratically is why he was stopped, then on top of that there was a gun on the floor.

Heres an AI Overview of Nebraska law:

“In Nebraska, openly carrying a firearm while committing a crime can lead to significantly enhanced penalties, often elevating a misdemeanor offense to a felony. The specifics of the charge depend on the circumstances, such as the type of crime committed and the type of firearm used.“

In addition:

“How can open carry lead to criminal charges?
Even if you can legally carry a firearm, certain actions or behaviors can lead to criminal charges.

• Carrying while intoxicated: Possessing a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs is illegal.
• Failure to inform law enforcement: If you are carrying and are contacted by law enforcement, Nebraska is one of the few "duty to inform" states. You must immediately notify the officer that you are carrying a firearm and where it is located.

We don’t know whether Bud committed a crime or not. Right now the details are just too sketchy to tell.

In addition, according to the police report; Bud was not issued a field sobriety test because the officers admitted that Crawford did not appear to be impaired.

Neither did they detect the stench of alcohol or drugs on his breath or in his system. He was totally clean and sober. Which makes it very hard for me to believe that he was driving erratically.

Lastly, you’ve cited the Nebraska law where a gun owner must inform the officer of a legal firearm in his vehicle and where it is located.

Well Bud did just that. He informed that officer that he had legal firearms in his vehicle at the time of the stoppage and that is what triggered and set the officer off.

When he aimed his weapon at Crawford and ordered all of the other passengers out of the car at gunpoint. Bud’s constitutional rights were violated. He followed proper procedure and protocol.

However, that officer had not. Which is why he is currently on suspension.