Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

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  • kafkod
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    #251
    The answer to the OP's question is obviously Usyk. He is a 2 division undisputed champion, 2 time undisputed champ at HW, boxing's blue riband division.

    Floyd was a title holder in multiple divisions, but never an undisputed champion in any of them. I don't think he was even a unified champ in any of the divisions he won titles in.

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #252
      Originally posted by djtmal

      Lol.

      Floyd was scared
      May > Pac (even though beating Pac is nothing special)

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        #253
        Hilarious how ragebait threads make it to 30 pages, but I ask about the best korean boxers of all time, and it gets 5 replies.

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          #254
          Originally posted by Toffee

          What would we see?

          The best at losing weight quickly and gaining weight quickly?

          That game improves a fighter's chances but it absolutely doesn't improve them.

          When you see a heavyweight you see them at the fighting weight that their training produces, not a dehydrated shell of the fighter that they could be.
          We'd see a bunch of fat slobs forced to do what every other boxer has to do.
          How many will tap out during training camp

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          • TheProudLunatic
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            #255
            Originally posted by Dr Z
            While Usyk is 10X the man and would destroy Mayweather in a boxing match,
            Is the bold supposed to impress someone
            May would destroy Usyk at 160....
            See how this works ?!?!?

            It's easy to be the best if your opps are -
            AJ 2x....not the worst robotic muscle head to ever lace them up but he is robotic
            Dubois 2x...extreme yawn. Dubois will be all but forgotten by next year.
            Fury 2x....A glorified night club bouncer. All height and dirty tactics.
            His resume is lacking

            I'm a fan of Usyk but anointing him the best that's ever done !!!!!
            Burt Cooper would run things in this shltty HW era
            Last edited by TheProudLunatic; 07-24-2025, 10:18 PM.

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            • djtmal
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              #256
              Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

              May > Pac
              Pac>RunnyMoney

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #257
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                Floyd wasn't better against common opponents, so don't try go off topic.
                Pac s considered greater as he's achieved far more. Floyd's cramping Pac s style. Pac is rightly amongst the SRR, Alis, and Durans of this world, so mentioning floyds name alongside Pac s name isn't a good look for pac. Its bringing pac down and making pac look bad. History repeating itself and floyd cramping usyk style now too. Usyk wants comparison to Ali, but then usyk is bought back down to earth with your not quite Ali level yet,but we will compare you to floyd instead, hows that for a consolation prize??

                There's no comparison, Floyd's more along the lines of a sven ottke, marciano and Joe calzaghe. Is calzaghe as good as usyk with names like hopkins, and rjj on his resume?
                Tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?

                You have 0 credibility.

                Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3. No question who is better.​

                Floyd beat JMM by a wider margin, who Manny lost to, didn’t CW Cotto, didn’t drain ODH, KO’d Hatton first, beat Shane first.

                Add to that a dominating win over Manny.

                but please answer the question I asked.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                  Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3. No question who is better.​

                  .
                  Floyd, in lackluster fashion, outpointed a shopworn Manny, which means he was not at his best, so to say Floyd is better is not accurate or the absolute truth.

                  You can argue Floyd was older/past his prime as well ok. So you have two over-the-hill fighters not fighting for supremacy, but for the $, and it showed. It was the worst mega fight ever imo
                  Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 07:34 AM.

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                    #259
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                    Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3. No question who is better.​

                    Floyd beat JMM by a wider margin, who Manny lost to, didn’t CW Cotto, didn’t drain ODH, KO’d Hatton first, beat Shane first.

                    Add to that a dominating win over Manny.

                    but please answer the question I asked.
                    Calzaghe beat former heavychamp rjj, rather than former flyweight like floyd did. So of course calzaghe is better than floyd. Jmm koed pac, so jmm must be better than floyd too.


                    Last edited by hugh grant; 07-25-2025, 07:54 AM.

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                      Floyd beat JMM by a wider margin, who Manny lost to, didn’t CW Cotto, didn’t drain ODH, KO’d Hatton first, beat Shane first.

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                      Ok Manny beat Marquez at least 2x before Floyd needed every a side advantage plus welch on the scales so let's keep it a buck

                      Floyd barely outpointed Oscar/Cotto while Manny thoroughly beat the brakes off both. Fought the same shopworn Oscar Floyd did. Beat Cotto while still prime Floyd fought a shopworn Cotto. Stopped prime Hatton at his best weight class in fewer rounds.

                      Shane Mosley who cares he was already a shopworn 5 loss 38 year old with Floyd and Manny. Forrest Winky 2x and Cotto got to him already.
                      Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 08:01 AM.

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