Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[djtmal]

Maybe your hero can stop getting "robbed" by the most meh opps

Lol.

Floyd was scared

[Pac=Duran]

the two fights vs fury were very close

heavyweight division is weak currently

i give the slight edge to floyd

I wouldnt say "Very" close.

Usyk won close-ish but clear fights. And in the first one he almost killed Fury in that 8th round I think.

One of the worst one-round beatings ever.

[The Big Dunn]

This thread really got you guys all riled up. What gives?

I think it could be the question is ridiculous on its face. Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights. Usyk’s career isn’t over yet.

We get it- you hate Floyd because he clowned and beat Manny who you idolize. You keep trying to lower him with these type of threads.

How about asking if Usyk is the best ever boxer from Eastern European/Russian bloc countries?

This takes all the potential race garbage out of it and allows for a good discussion.

But asking about Floyd or Ali seems to be done specifically to get some kind of race war going.

[The Big Dunn]

the 2 bolded

why would it be consider "lowering him" if you feel that Usyk is a great fighter??? truth comes out once Usyk is being compared to some of the past AA fighters.

there;s not that many great europeans HWs to compare him too... so why would you do that?

Everyone already thinks he is great.

Lessening Floyd is the ridiculous threads guys like him create always asking if someone is better than Floyd. Never any other boxer.

Then there was the Ali question where at least the TS was honest that his reasoning wasn’t resume based but race and politics. That isn’t how the better boxer should be determined.

Not that dishonest silliness again.

There are plenty. You don’t know because you aren’t a knowledgeable fan. There are also plenty of boxers to ask about.

Great question would be who is better Usyk or Loma? Both from same era. Both from same country. Both great boxers.

Just won’t spark a race war or signal to those that hate a specific boxer. So guys like the TS will not ask it.

[The Big Dunn]

how is it lessening floyd tho?? unless you feel that usyk is levels below floyd??? they cant be equal?

Asked and answered.

Not levels. It’s like the difference between say Kareem and Duncan. Both ATG but Kareem’s resume is better, which is why he is ranked higher.

Using resume? No because again Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights.

I am sure if the resumes were switched this question wouldn’t be considered.

That stated, it’s always Floyd being compared. Why not anyone else? Are there no other ATG’s you guys care about?

[The Big Dunn]

there's not plenty... who are Great... there's plenty of HWs of european descent. but we are talking about greats here... US has the most so it's fair to compared him to some of the great US HWs, since US sets the standard.. it's like if you have a great chinese basketball player, you are not gonna compared him with other great chinese basketball players of the past, you want to compared him with past NBA players to gage how great he really is.

Fine. So it should be an easy question to answer.

ok so start somewhere in the middle where the discussion is more reasonable. Like Holyfield.

Both former cruisers. Both ATGs in 2 divisions.

But Ali? Come on that is ridiculous.

You know how I know this? The same guys that will vote Usyk will tell you when asking if say Floyd is the ATG ww, will say how can he be given he fought only a portion of his career at ww while guys like Leonard and SRR fought the majority of their careers there?

That is the same logic most people have used here. So what is it really about?

Stop it. No one compares Yao and Kareem. They use Shaq because they played against each other.

No one is asking is Yao better than Kareem, Russel or wilt.

[The Big Dunn]

nah, they are pretty much equal in their own rights..

No they are not. At least not resume based.

Don’t leave out and duck the most important part of the post-

Great question would be who is better Usyk or Loma? Both from same era. Both from same country. Both great boxers.

Just won’t spark a race war or signal to those that hate a specific boxer. So guys like the TS will not ask it.

[The Big Dunn]

i dont think it's ridiculous to compared him to Ali (dude has 5 L's).. Holyfield aint really all that great, plus, holyfield has been accused of being on peds (you even made this accusation yourself).. this is probably why you feel it's ok to compared Usyk to holyfield. just being honest here.

Using that logic we shouldn’t compare Manny to Floyd. Of course you don’t think that.

I have joked about Evan fields yes. He is still an ATG.

That is dumb AF.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Usyk. Floyd moved up in weight and became a defensive fighter while ducking serious threats like Thurman. Usyk moved up in weight against fighters holding significant physical advantages over him and he was walking them down. Floyd has never been undisputed in any weight classes and has without doubt been on substances.

[djtmal]

Asked and answered.

Not levels. It’s like the difference between say Kareem and Duncan. Both ATG but Kareem’s resume is better, which is why he is ranked higher.

Using resume? No because again Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights.

I am sure if the resumes were switched this question wouldn’t be considered.

That stated, it’s always Floyd being compared. Why not anyone else? Are there no other ATG’s you guys care about?

I don't get it why can't they just compare the two and whoever comes out on top that is what it is

Maybe because Floyd is getting spanked in the polls?