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  • The Big Dunn
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    #261
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Calzaghe beat former heavychamp rjj, rather than former flyweight like floyd did. So of course calzaghe is better than floyd. Jmm koed pac, so jmm must be better than floyd too.

    Just answer the question asked

    Tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?

    RJJ was much older than Calzaghe. Floyd is older than Manny so that BS will not work.

    None of them are better than Floyd. You think Manny is better than Calzaghe, Roy and JMM so Floyd beating Manny is the best win out of all of them according to you.

    Floyd is better than Manny. We saw it head to head.

    Now do you think you can show some guts and answer the question asked above.

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      #262
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Calzaghe beat former heavychamp rjj, rather than former flyweight like floyd did. So of course calzaghe is better than floyd. Jmm koed pac, so jmm must be better than floyd too.

      If you use those analogies Andre Ward ranks higher than Floyd all time

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        #263
        Originally posted by djtmal

        If you use those analogies Andre Ward ranks higher than Floyd all time
        And they both rank higher than Manny because Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3.

        Manny was clearly there just for the check. Embarrassing effort by an ATG boxer in the biggest and most important fight of his career.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-25-2025, 08:21 AM.

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          #264
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          And they both rank higher than Manny because Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3.

          Manny was clearly there just for the check. Embarrassing effort by an ATG boxer in the biggest and most important fight of his career.
          So Ward is better than Manny, because Floyd beat Manny ok you emotional right now.

          Floyd, in lackluster fashion, outpointed a shopworn Manny, which means he was not at his best, so to say Floyd is better is not accurate or the absolute truth.

          You can argue Floyd was older/past his prime as well ok. So you have two over-the-hill fighters not fighting for supremacy, but for the $, and it showed. It was the worst mega fight ever imo​
          Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 08:39 AM.

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            #265
            Originally posted by djtmal

            Floyd, in lackluster fashion, outpointed a shopworn Manny, which means he was not at his best, so to say Floyd is better is not accurate or the absolute truth.

            You can argue Floyd was older/past his prime as well ok. So you have two over-the-hill fighters not fighting for supremacy, but for the $, and it showed. It was the worst mega fight ever imo​
            Manny wasn’t shopworn. He was there for the check. He didn’t try to win for fear of getting ktfo. Floyd fought as hard as necessary to win.

            No idiot, Floyd is older than manny. That is a fact. It isn’t arguable.

            You had the top 2 p4p boxers in the world that were supposed to be fighting for their legacies and to determine who was the best ww and best boxer in the world.

            Floyd came to do that. Manny came just to get a check. Frankly, his turning down the $40 mil no PPV offer showed what his real motivation was years before the fight.

            Yes, Manny made it the worst mega fight ever by just showing up and not fighting to win.

            Sadly his ball Smoking stans like you will not hold him accountable for letting you down.

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              #266
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Manny wasn’t shopworn. .
              Let's see he had 64 total fights with 5 losses ko'd 3x.

              Shopworn is the truth

              The rest of your argument is null and void
              Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 08:50 AM.

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                #267
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Let's see he had 64 total fights with 5 losses ko'd 3x.

                Shopworn is the truth
                No he wasn’t. He was fine. He just didn’t fight hard because all he wanted was the paycheck.

                Lets be clear- had he taken $40 mil, no PPV rather than fight JMM a 4th time for $28 mil with the bulk of the PPV, you couldn’t use the got kod excuse.

                That right there tells you Manny just wanted more money. I guess Jinkee’s campaign and the hookers baby by him were draining his pockets.

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                  No idiot, Floyd is older than manny. That is a fact. It isn’t arguable.
                  We've been down this road already


                  Age isn't the only factor in a fighter's prime

                  Let's see he had 64 total fights with 5 losses ko'd 3x.

                  Age 36
                  Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 08:55 AM.

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    No he wasn’t. He was fine.
                    Oh ok I get it it.

                    A 36 year old with 60+ fights 5 losses been kod 3x is not shopworn because you say so

                    Even with all the facts in front of you it's still the opposite. Lol

                    Talk about being in denial
                    Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 08:59 AM.

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                      Floyd came to do that.
                      Floyd made a mockery of a once respectable sport with the excessive cherrypicking and overmarination of fighters who posed above a 30% risk.

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