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  • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    I don't get it why can't they just compare the two and whoever comes out on top that is what it is

    Maybe because Floyd is getting spanked in the polls?
    There is no valid comparison. That is why.

    Floyd always loses these polls because voting against him is the only way certain posters can lessen him since he beat the guys they like.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      I didn’t use any logic. I took what you stated and applied it to Floyd v Manny to show you’re full of BS when you suggest it.

      Floyd beat Manny. Usyk didn’t beat Ali. That is the other reason the comparisons make no sense to many.

      You never used PED accusations or use to not make a comparison so I am not giving this any validity here. You appear to be desperately reaching for something just to argue.

      Usyk and Holyfield is a comparison between 2 ATGs with similar histories. A good discussion/
      the bolded

      no, i knew what you were trying to go with that one by brining up manny since pac has a few L's... because i said Ali has 5 L's. dont try to twist it.. you didnt think i was gonna flip it back at yall!!

      you only brought up holyfield and say we should compare usyk to him because holyfield has ped accusation so you dont care if we feel that usyk is better than him.

      Ali is a household name, so you can never have usyk over him, it's not so much about resume, etc, it's because you feel that he's a great representation for the AA.... whereas for holyfield, he's been accused of being a cheater so you dont care about him.
      Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; 07-24-2025, 11:56 AM.

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        There is no valid comparison. That is why.

        Floyd always loses these polls because voting against him is the only way certain posters can lessen him since he beat the guys they like.
        There is a valid comparison they both box

        I keep telling you Floyd comes up short because he stopped beating guys in their prime and the guys they put him up with never stopped

        Start a Floyd vs Cotto thread at 140 since they never fought I am sure Floyd would come out on top
        Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 12:04 PM.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          There is no valid comparison. That is why.

          Floyd always loses these polls because voting against him is the only way certain posters can lessen him since he beat the guys they like.
          that just proves floyd doesnt have enough loyal fans. aint our fault.

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          • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

            that just proves floyd doesnt have enough loyal fans. aint our fault.
            They have fell off drastically

            There was a time you did a Floyd poll and the Floyd boys would flood it

            Now it's just Big Dunn and that other weirdo
            Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 12:12 PM.

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            • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

              the bolded

              no, i knew what you were trying to go with that one by brining up manny since pac has a few L's... because i said Ali has 5 L's. dont try to twist it.. you didnt think i was gonna flip it back at yall!!

              you only brought up holyfield and say we should compare usyk to him because holyfield has ped accusation so you dont care if we feel that usyk is better than him.

              Ali is a household name, so you can never have usyk over him, it's not so much about resume, etc, it's because you feel that he's a great representation for the AA.... whereas for holyfield, he's been accused of being a cheater so you dont care about him.
              You sadly actually think you’re right. Lmfao. This is the same warped mindset that led you to post yesterday we were battling. You aren’t a rational human being.

              Again this kind of warped, demented thinking is just too bizarre for a rational adult to deal with.

              I brought up Holyfield for the reasons stated- they are ATG’s that have had similar careers going from cruiser to hwy and being champions at both weights.

              Usyk can’t be above Ali as a boxer for only resume reasons. To try and compare them as men is ridiculous given Ali’s lifetime experiences.

              I am going to leave it at this because you aren’t sane or rational.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-24-2025, 12:33 PM.

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              • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                that just proves floyd doesnt have enough loyal fans. aint our fault.
                Well he is retired. Most of us don’t engage in the same silliness you and the other Manny ball gobblers do.

                Why?

                Because we saw, as did you, Floyd beat Manny easily by a wide margin. There really is nothing more to discuss as to who is better between them.

                So the Manny fans keep trying to find guys better than Floyd for the reasons I stated.

                I didn’t expect the loss to make all of you so upset. I should’ve known better. Losers behave irrationally.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  I think it could be the question is ridiculous on its face. Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights. Usyk’s career isn’t over yet.

                  We get it- you hate Floyd because he clowned and beat Manny who you idolize. You keep trying to lower him with these type of threads.

                  How about asking if Usyk is the best ever boxer from Eastern European/Russian bloc countries?

                  This takes all the potential race garbage out of it and allows for a good discussion.

                  But asking about Floyd or Ali seems to be done specifically to get some kind of race war going.
                  Hardcore Boxing fans disagree.

                  Its oveR for Floyds legacy it seems.

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                  • Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

                    Hardcore Boxing fans disagree.

                    Its oveR for Floyds legacy it seems.
                    Lmfao!!

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      Well he is retired. Most of us don’t engage in the same silliness you and the other Manny ball gobblers do.

                      Why?

                      Because we saw, as did you, Floyd beat Manny easily by a wide margin. There really is nothing more to discuss as to who is better between them.

                      So the Manny fans keep trying to find guys better than Floyd for the reasons I stated.

                      I didn’t expect the loss to make all of you so upset. I should’ve known better. Losers behave irrationally.
                      You defended Floyd ever since you have almost 100,000 posts defending him

                      There are dozens of fighters better than Floyd. Just about all of them beat all time great fighters in their prime and Floyd didn't. You never provided this long list of boxing historians saying Floyd was the goat and we know you lying there

                      What Floyd did it was cool for his era but it don't transcend eras except for the money he made.
                      Nobody gives him any chance against his atg peers because he did too many back door moves. Fought too many shopworn and c fighters


                      Floyd beat a past time Manny in the worst mega fight ever as far as entertainment. It proved that Floyd was better at cherrypicking when to fight guys he was scared of. It was one of Floyd's worst outings that you shouldn't try to glorify too much being that all he did was run hug and hide behind the ref. His pops told him he was scared.
                      Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 01:54 PM.

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