Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[PRINCEKOOL]

Everyone knows? How was usyks era weak? He beat gassiev who was #1. Breidis who was #1 after usyk left. He beat glowacki who was #2. He beat huck and mchunu who were top 10.

Haye beat mormeck and maccarinelli. Dont see how thats better. Enzo being in the top 5 should tell you how weak that era was because he never beat a top 10 fighter. Gassiev has 2 wins over guys who were #1 or went on to be #1. Breidis beat the top 2 guys in the Division. Glowacki beat the #1 guy. Sounds far more competitive to me.

Mormeck is definitely a good win but Mormeck was also 35 and had recently been kod before regaining his title. Gassiev breidis and glowacki were all undefeated and prime.

Jean Marc Mormeck had beaten every single fighter he had ever fought for almost an entire decade from 1997 to 2007 'And he avenged his loss to O'Neil Bell the IBF Cruiserweight Champion, prior to fighting David Haye. Oleksandr Uysk does not have a cruiserweight win, which is comparable. David Haye as a cruiserweight in my opinion at his absolute peak, was a better fighter than Oleksandr Uysk'.

All of those fighters you have mentioned, were close fights 'Uysk has very rarely ever dominated his top level opponents, I would say? Only Daniel Dubois II is the only top level fighter he has beaten by a distance. Tony Bellew was dead at the weight, and was arguable beating him before being knocked out'.

David Haye as a Cruiserweight fighter, dominated the other premier champions in the division 'He knocked out Jean Marc Mormeck away from home in France inside 7 rounds, and blasted out Enzo Maccarinelli inside 2 rounds. A by far more impressive and brutal cruiserweight run of fights than Oleksandr Uysk, winning as Champion in more brutal and conclusion fashion. The WBC, WBO, WBA, and Lineal Cruiserweight Titles'.

Oleksandr Uysk vs Daniel Dubois I & II 'Is the first time ever at top level, that Uysk has really separated himself from the competition. Against Dubois? Who yes is a solid fighter, but it is common knowledge that he is a front runner as a fighter at top level. I have been saying for a very long time, that Daniel Dubois is the type of fighter who is ether going to win fights in spectacular fashion or lose fights in spectacular fashion. It is almost inevitable, it is just a matter of when and against which top level fighter'.

Oleksandr Uysk is an all-time great fighter 'you would have to rate any fighter, who is able to become a two time Undisputed Champion as a great fighter. Because fighters can only beat their nearest competition within their era. In reality? Hypothetical match ups, are not relevant they are pure fiction and useless'.

I think people in the moment have over exaggerated Oleksandr Uysk's win vs Daniel Dubois II 'Seriously? Is Uysk vs Dubois I & II a better win than Lennox Lewis blasting out Donovan Razor Ruddock inside 2 rounds? Obliterating Andrew Golota inside 1 round? Mike Tyson decimating Michael Sprinks, fighter who has just beaten Larry Holmes twice back to back in 91 seconds ? I could mention many more great heavyweight wins, which side by side are better than Oleksandr Uysk's win'.

If Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois II is made next 'I would still not be surprised if Joshua beats Dubois II, in way more impressive fashion than Oleksandr Uysk. Because Daniel Dubois for all of his abilities and strengths, skill for skill he is not very talented fighter compared to the proven great heavyweights of this era. Daniel Dubois moving forward in his career in my opinion, will continue to ether win in spectacular fashion or lose in speculation fashion. His next fight could be an impressive violent win, or he could so easily get smashed up by fighters such as Anthony Joshua II and Joseph Parker'.

To conclude: Oleksandr Uysk's wins over Daniel Dubois I & II 'Are not all-time great heavyweight victories. It is a win you would aspect a so called all-time great Heavyweight fighter to achieve. If Anthony Joshua would have blasted out Dubois I in their first fight, or even in the rematch? Very few people would be reacting to that level of victory, and claiming that Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight fighter of all times? But don't you think that is interesting, because Anthony Joshua even still now at this stage of his career has the ability to systematically Daniel Dubois, don't be surprised if such eventually happens moving forward in the game' etc.

[djtmal]

Was that a post or a novel

[TMLT87]

Usyk is more likeable and entertaining in the ring but come on now, 2010s cruiserweights and a handful of 2010s/20s British HWs vs a guy fighting for nearly 20 years, having more than twice as many fights, and at lower weight classes where the general level of talent is significantly higher. It isnt ****ing close. Floyd has wins over like 10 guys who were better p4p talents than anyone Usyk has beaten.

[TMLT87]

Usyk is quite literally the best boxer in the world right now. If everyone competed in a tournament, he would win.

Are you saying because hes the best big guy? ****ing Del Boy or Lucas Browne or some **** would probably beat the best p4p guys too, i'm not sure its all that impressive really. P4P exists for a reason.

Besides, if we are going with the "if they had an openweight tournament" argument, you might as well go one step further and make it open rules too, in which case Usyk is getting his **** pushed in by random none top 10 MMA fighters and kickboxers. So the whole king of the mountain thing doesnt mean much.

[El_Mero]

You mean - Floyd beat Fishnets, Manny and Canelo and I am still mad about it.

Your assumptions make you an @ss...not me.
could care less who he beat. Usyk accomplish2d something Jr. Never tried, attempted or was scared to, and Usyk did it in 2 divisions. You can hold Jr's lil jock, as you've been doing for years, while celebrating his money. Good for you

[mick1303]

I was always a fan of what Mayweather done inside the ring. Once all the outside noise was behind - he was like a surgeon. I was always rooting for him in all his fights. With that being said, outside the ring there are questions. He never was an undisputed in any division. He notably avoided several fights where public demand was present. If he agreed to GGG coming down to 154 and beaten him, his resume would look a lot more complete. Not to mention Margarito. By the way, I think he had good chances to win those fights. GGG would've been severely depleted...

[Gary Coleman]

Floyd was never regarded as the best in the world.

Why lie about something like this? It's strange.

[RomanReigns2]

Floyd Mayweather. 50 have tried, 50 have failed

[IceTrayDaGang]

I think it’s Floyd. But Usyk isn’t as far behind imo as I think some in this thread feel.

LOL.. 0-2 for Usyk!!! i think i know why.

[hugh grant]

Floyd was never regarded as the best in the world. He was regarded as the hardest to hit

True, pac had better wins than floyd, I think the reason floyd was put above pac is cos floyd was hard to hit? I literally think that's the only reason.
Pac could have been no1 pfp as early as in 2003 when he best barrera, and floyd arguably lost to Castillo in 2002