Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[The Big Dunn]

you are entitled to your own opinion, but if we are going with your logic since you brought up Manny/Floyd, then that means Usyk is better than Ali since Usyk is undefeated? and we shouldnt even compared him to Ali??

yes, Holyfield has ped accusation, you said it yourself, so it's not really fair to compare Usyk to him unless Usyk later down the line has ped accusation. Because with holyfield, we dont know if he was clean in some of his fights and which ones and since he has ped accusation, we cant really give him 100% credit for all the fights he's won. this is why i said it's not a good comparison and this is probably why you brought up holyfield, because if I said Usyk is better than holyfield, then i know you wouldnt have any issue with this because of the reasons i just explained above.

I didn’t use any logic. I took what you stated and applied it to Floyd v Manny to show you’re full of BS when you suggest it.

Floyd beat Manny. Usyk didn’t beat Ali. That is the other reason the comparisons make no sense to many.

You never used PED accusations or use to not make a comparison so I am not giving this any validity here. You appear to be desperately reaching for something just to argue.

Usyk and Holyfield is a comparison between 2 ATGs with similar histories. A good discussion/

[The Big Dunn]

I don't get it why can't they just compare the two and whoever comes out on top that is what it is

Maybe because Floyd is getting spanked in the polls?

There is no valid comparison. That is why.

Floyd always loses these polls because voting against him is the only way certain posters can lessen him since he beat the guys they like.

[djtmal]

There is no valid comparison. That is why.

Floyd always loses these polls because voting against him is the only way certain posters can lessen him since he beat the guys they like.

There is a valid comparison they both box

I keep telling you Floyd comes up short because he stopped beating guys in their prime and the guys they put him up with never stopped

Start a Floyd vs Cotto thread at 140 since they never fought I am sure Floyd would come out on top

[djtmal]

that just proves floyd doesnt have enough loyal fans. aint our fault.

They have fell off drastically

There was a time you did a Floyd poll and the Floyd boys would flood it

Now it's just Big Dunn and that other weirdo

[The Big Dunn]

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no, i knew what you were trying to go with that one by brining up manny since pac has a few L's... because i said Ali has 5 L's. dont try to twist it.. you didnt think i was gonna flip it back at yall!!

you only brought up holyfield and say we should compare usyk to him because holyfield has ped accusation so you dont care if we feel that usyk is better than him.

Ali is a household name, so you can never have usyk over him, it's not so much about resume, etc, it's because you feel that he's a great representation for the AA.... whereas for holyfield, he's been accused of being a cheater so you dont care about him.

You sadly actually think you’re right. Lmfao. This is the same warped mindset that led you to post yesterday we were battling. You aren’t a rational human being.

Again this kind of warped, demented thinking is just too bizarre for a rational adult to deal with.

I brought up Holyfield for the reasons stated- they are ATG’s that have had similar careers going from cruiser to hwy and being champions at both weights.

Usyk can’t be above Ali as a boxer for only resume reasons. To try and compare them as men is ridiculous given Ali’s lifetime experiences.

I am going to leave it at this because you aren’t sane or rational.

[The Big Dunn]

that just proves floyd doesnt have enough loyal fans. aint our fault.

Well he is retired. Most of us don’t engage in the same silliness you and the other Manny ball gobblers do.

Why?

Because we saw, as did you, Floyd beat Manny easily by a wide margin. There really is nothing more to discuss as to who is better between them.

So the Manny fans keep trying to find guys better than Floyd for the reasons I stated.

I didn’t expect the loss to make all of you so upset. I should’ve known better. Losers behave irrationally.

[Pac=Duran]

I think it could be the question is ridiculous on its face. Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights. Usyk’s career isn’t over yet.

We get it- you hate Floyd because he clowned and beat Manny who you idolize. You keep trying to lower him with these type of threads.

How about asking if Usyk is the best ever boxer from Eastern European/Russian bloc countries?

This takes all the potential race garbage out of it and allows for a good discussion.

But asking about Floyd or Ali seems to be done specifically to get some kind of race war going.

Hardcore Boxing fans disagree.

Its oveR for Floyds legacy it seems.

[The Big Dunn]

Hardcore Boxing fans disagree.

Its oveR for Floyds legacy it seems.

Lmfao!!

[djtmal]

Well he is retired. Most of us don’t engage in the same silliness you and the other Manny ball gobblers do.

Why?

Because we saw, as did you, Floyd beat Manny easily by a wide margin. There really is nothing more to discuss as to who is better between them.

So the Manny fans keep trying to find guys better than Floyd for the reasons I stated.

I didn’t expect the loss to make all of you so upset. I should’ve known better. Losers behave irrationally.

You defended Floyd ever since you have almost 100,000 posts defending him

There are dozens of fighters better than Floyd. Just about all of them beat all time great fighters in their prime and Floyd didn't. You never provided this long list of boxing historians saying Floyd was the goat and we know you lying there

What Floyd did it was cool for his era but it don't transcend eras except for the money he made.
Nobody gives him any chance against his atg peers because he did too many back door moves. Fought too many shopworn and c fighters


Floyd beat a past time Manny in the worst mega fight ever as far as entertainment. It proved that Floyd was better at cherrypicking when to fight guys he was scared of. It was one of Floyd's worst outings that you shouldn't try to glorify too much being that all he did was run hug and hide behind the ref. His pops told him he was scared.

[The Big Dunn]

You defended Floyd ever since you have almost 100,000 posts defending him

There are dozens of fighters better than Floyd. Just about all of them beat all time great fighters in their prime and Floyd didn't. You never provided this long list of boxing historians saying Floyd was the goat and we know you lying there

What Floyd did it was cool for his era but it don't transcend eras except for the money he made.
Nobody gives him any chance against his atg peers because he did too many back door moves. Fought too many shopworn and c fighters


Floyd beat a past time Manny in the worst mega fight ever as far as entertainment. It proved that Floyd was better at cherrypicking when to fight guys he was scared of. It was one of Floyd's worst outings that you shouldn't try to glorify too much being that all he did was run hug and hide behind the ref. His pops told him he was scared.

I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

I said they have him ranked above Manny. They were posted and you commented on them.

Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.

Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.