Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

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  • djtmal
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    #241
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

    I said.
    You can say whatever you want now. You never provided anything to back it up. As far as I am concerned if it isn't Bert Sugar or Max Kellerman it's biased

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      #242
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



      Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.
      Well you can say he beat those guys, but you can't say he beat them in their prime, and he avoided those guys in their prime

      You can say he beat Marcos Madonna in his prime though
      Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 02:38 PM.

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        #243
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn



        Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

        All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

        Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.
        Manny was past his prime. Still if it wasn't for him pressing the action the fans would have left the arena by the 7th round as all Floyd did was run hug and spoil. To gloat over that shows how much of a fanboy you are

        Conor McGregor was in his prime and had height/reach on Floyd. Somebody taught him how to jab. He did a good job if he didn't run out of gas he would have made the late rounds more interesting. Shows you how bogus Floyd was to count a 0-0 mma guy on the resume
        Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 02:33 PM.

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          #244
          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

          MJ still has a lot of fans and he's been retired for how long now??? floyd just doesnt have that many fans that are actually loyal fans. floyd's claim to fame was based on boxing fans having a dislike for him so they pay for his ppv in hopes to see him lose.
          I agree nobody seems to care about Floyd

          Except for Big Dunn

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #245
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang




            see right through where you were trying to go with this.
            This post shows how dumb you truly are.

            What you highlighted in red is me talking about you using logic with respect to Ali and Usyk that you have never, nor would ever, use when talking about Floyd and Manny.

            Yet somehow you think it’s about something else.

            My fault for at least thinking I was discussing this with someone rational and sane.

            I will not make that mistake again.

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              #246
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

              I said they have him ranked above Manny. They were posted and you commented on them.

              Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.

              Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

              All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

              Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.
              It's funny why anyone would claim Floyd's above pac. Was this the day after floyd best pac, so maybe we're swayed prematurely?
              But funny how all common opponents say pac was the best they faced?
              Last edited by hugh grant; 07-24-2025, 03:00 PM.

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                #247
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                It's funny why anyone would claim Floyd's above pac. Was this the day after floyd best pac, so maybe we're swayed prematurely?
                But funny how all common opponents say pac was the best they faced?
                Tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?

                You have 0 credibility.

                Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3. No question who is better.

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by hugh grant


                  But funny how all common opponents say pac was the best they faced?
                  This is interesting , both faced Hatton , Floyd faced him 1st (07') dominated him and stopped him in 10. PAC(09') sparked Hatton out in 2 rounds . ODLH Floyd again faced him 1st (07') beat him by SD , PAC (08')stopped him in 8 gave him a beating TBH . Cotto , PAC faced him 1st (09) PAC stopped him in 12 again gave Cotto a beating , Floyd (12') beat him by UD .Mosley Floyd fought him 1st (10') beat him by UD outside of rocking Floyd early Floyd dominated , PAC (11') also beat him by UD Mosley won 1 round on the 3 scorecards domination from PAC. JMM PAC fought him in (04') split draw in an amazing fight , (08') another amazing fight PAC wins by SD , (11') another great fight PAC wins by MD, fourth fight PAC(12') gets sparked out in 6 .Floyd fought JMM in (09') dominating UD .
                  Last edited by Brother Mouzone; 07-24-2025, 03:58 PM.

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn


                    Floyd beat Manny 10-2, 10-2, 9-3. No question who is better.
                    Floyd wasn't better against common opponents, so don't try go off topic.
                    Pac s considered greater as he's achieved far more. Floyd's cramping Pac s style. Pac is rightly amongst the SRR, Alis, and Durans of this world, so mentioning floyds name alongside Pac s name isn't a good look for pac. Its bringing pac down and making pac look bad. History repeating itself and floyd cramping usyk style now too. Usyk wants comparison to Ali, but then usyk is bought back down to earth with your not quite Ali level yet,but we will compare you to floyd instead, hows that for a consolation prize??

                    There's no comparison, Floyd's more along the lines of a sven ottke, marciano and Joe calzaghe. Is calzaghe as good as usyk with names like hopkins, and rjj on his resume?
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 07-25-2025, 04:29 AM.

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Brother Mouzone

                      This is interesting , both faced Hatton , Floyd faced him 1st (07') dominated him and stopped him in 10. PAC(09') sparked Hatton out in 2 rounds . ODLH Floyd again faced him 1st (07') beat him by SD , PAC (08')stopped him in 8 gave him a beating TBH . Cotto , PAC faced him 1st (09) PAC stopped him in 12 again gave Cotto a beating , Floyd (12') beat him by UD .Mosley Floyd fought him 1st (10') beat him by UD outside of rocking Floyd early Floyd dominated , PAC (11') also beat him by UD Mosley won 1 round on the 3 scorecards domination from PAC. JMM PAC fought him in (04') split draw in an amazing fight , (08') another amazing fight PAC wins by SD , (11') another great fight PAC wins by MD, fourth fight PAC(12') gets sparked out in 6 .Floyd fought JMM in (09') dominating UD .
                      So is it safe to say Manny beat the brakes off more common opponents

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