Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[Pac=Duran]

This thread really got you guys all riled up. What gives?

[Toffee]

HWs are all "Teehee....battling the scales ."
I'd love to see that div have limits.
Then we'd see.

What would we see?

The best at losing weight quickly and gaining weight quickly?

That game improves a fighter's chances but it absolutely doesn't improve them.

When you see a heavyweight you see them at the fighting weight that their training produces, not a dehydrated shell of the fighter that they could be.

[jas]

the two fights vs fury were very close

heavyweight division is weak currently

i give the slight edge to floyd

[djtmal]

Maybe your hero can stop getting "robbed" by the most meh opps

Lol.

Floyd was scared

[Pac=Duran]

the two fights vs fury were very close

heavyweight division is weak currently

i give the slight edge to floyd

I wouldnt say "Very" close.

Usyk won close-ish but clear fights. And in the first one he almost killed Fury in that 8th round I think.

One of the worst one-round beatings ever.

[The Big Dunn]

This thread really got you guys all riled up. What gives?

I think it could be the question is ridiculous on its face. Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights. Usyk’s career isn’t over yet.

We get it- you hate Floyd because he clowned and beat Manny who you idolize. You keep trying to lower him with these type of threads.

How about asking if Usyk is the best ever boxer from Eastern European/Russian bloc countries?

This takes all the potential race garbage out of it and allows for a good discussion.

But asking about Floyd or Ali seems to be done specifically to get some kind of race war going.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I think it could be the question is ridiculous on its face. Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights. Usyk’s career isn’t over yet.

We get it- you hate Floyd because he clowned and beat Manny who you idolize. You keep trying to lower him with these type of threads.

How about asking if Usyk is the best ever boxer from Eastern European/Russian bloc countries?

This takes all the potential race garbage out of it and allows for a good discussion.

But asking about Floyd or Ali seems to be done specifically to get some kind of race war going.

the 2 bolded

why would it be consider "lowering him" if you feel that Usyk is a great fighter??? truth comes out once Usyk is being compared to some of the past AA fighters.

there;s not that many great europeans HWs to compare him too... so why would you do that?

[The Big Dunn]

the 2 bolded

why would it be consider "lowering him" if you feel that Usyk is a great fighter??? truth comes out once Usyk is being compared to some of the past AA fighters.

there;s not that many great europeans HWs to compare him too... so why would you do that?

Everyone already thinks he is great.

Lessening Floyd is the ridiculous threads guys like him create always asking if someone is better than Floyd. Never any other boxer.

Then there was the Ali question where at least the TS was honest that his reasoning wasn’t resume based but race and politics. That isn’t how the better boxer should be determined.

Not that dishonest silliness again.

There are plenty. You don’t know because you aren’t a knowledgeable fan. There are also plenty of boxers to ask about.

Great question would be who is better Usyk or Loma? Both from same era. Both from same country. Both great boxers.

Just won’t spark a race war or signal to those that hate a specific boxer. So guys like the TS will not ask it.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Everyone already thinks he is great.

Lessening Floyd is the ridiculous threads guys like him create always asking if someone is better than Floyd. Never any other boxer.

Then there was the Ali question where at least the TS was honest that his reasoning wasn’t resume based but race and politics. That isn’t how the better boxer should be determined.

Not that dishonest silliness again.

There are plenty. You don’t know because you aren’t a knowledgeable fan. There are also plenty of boxers to ask about.

Great question would be who is better Usyk or Loma? Both from same era. Both from same country. Both great boxers.

Just won’t spark a race war or signal to those that hate a specific boxer. So guys like the TS will not ask it.

how is it lessening floyd tho?? unless you feel that usyk is levels below floyd??? they cant be equal?

[The Big Dunn]

how is it lessening floyd tho?? unless you feel that usyk is levels below floyd??? they cant be equal?

Asked and answered.

Not levels. It’s like the difference between say Kareem and Duncan. Both ATG but Kareem’s resume is better, which is why he is ranked higher.

Using resume? No because again Floyd had as many title fights as Usyk has fights.

I am sure if the resumes were switched this question wouldn’t be considered.

That stated, it’s always Floyd being compared. Why not anyone else? Are there no other ATG’s you guys care about?