Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[IceTrayDaGang]

You do. The post is saved in poster Jedi Vader’s sig.

Why you gotta lie about it?

Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG. Once he did, your hatred caused you to delete the post and then, as you do here, move the goalposts.

Too bad Floyd doing what you thought he couldn’t stripped you of what little manhood you have. Just admit you were wrong and give him the credit he earned.

You have no credibility.

do you view manny's victory over dela hoya as a big accomplishment??? the same goes with "floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG"... he never beat any ATG fighters in their prime!! floyd said this about the Pac fight taking place in 2015!!!! "it's all about timing, im glad i waited it out"...

[The Big Dunn]

what does Usyk gotta do to get a W on the ATG list? seems like you only give him props and praise him high when he's being compared to other europeans but soon as his name gets mentioned along some of the greats african americans of the past, he can never be above them.

i dont give a damm if posters say Usyk is better than manny... that's their opinion... doesnt mean i gotta agree with it. but i wouldnt care!! that's the difference...

Huh? Where did I suggest he wasn’t on the ATG list?

Stop lying and exaggerating. I said he isn’t above Ali and Floyd. Nothing controversial about that.

The problem is idiot racists like you and ball smoking pac fans like the TS only ask these type of questions to signal to your friends. Same garbage year in and year out.

You guys don’t ask more reasonable questions like is Usyk better than Lewis or Tyson.

You will never ask if is he above Manny. You’re only interested in either race baiting or dissing Floyd.

Usyk is an ATG. That doesn’t mean he is above Ali, Leonard, Robinson, Floyd, and some others.

It does mean if you ask about other ATGs- Hearns, Holyfield, Frazier, Tyson and some others - he will be.

[The Big Dunn]

the people have spoken. No real argument left to say that Floyd is the greatest fighter of this century

Lmfao. He is the best of his era as determined by media experts etc.

We get it. You and many of your buddies still hurt he easily beat Manny try to lessen his career.

Is what it is.

[djtmal]

Shout out to Big Dunn. This thread got his full attention. He got the cape and utility belt on. Pulling out every Floyd excuse he can.

He used to have an army of Floyd boys helping him out with excuses i guess they threw in the towel

Get him some tissue

[IceTrayDaGang]

Huh? Where did I suggest he wasn’t on the ATG list?

Stop lying and exaggerating. I said he isn’t above Ali and Floyd. Nothing controversial about that.

The problem is idiot racists like you and ball smoking pac fans like the TS only ask these type of questions to signal to your friends. Same garbage year in and year out.

You guys don’t ask more reasonable questions like is Usyk better than Lewis or Tyson.

You will never ask if is he above Manny. You’re only interested in either race baiting or dissing Floyd.

Usyk is an ATG. That doesn’t mean he is above Ali, Leonard, Robinson, Floyd, and some others.

It does mean if you ask about other ATGs- Hearns, Holyfield, Frazier, Tyson and some others - he will be.

the boded --

Please read!!! i never accused you of saying he's not on the list!!! I asked you what does he gotta do to move up on the ATG list above some of the ATGs of african americans!!

i already said i dont care... Usyk cam be above manny, so what? life goes on!! LOL!!!! the hell.. you expect me to stress over it because some posters online rank Usyk higher than Pac? I DONT CARE!!!

[The Big Dunn]

the boded --

Please read!!! i never accused you of saying he's not on the list!!! I asked you what does he gotta do to move up on the ATG list above some of the ATGs of african americans!!

i already said i dont care... Usyk cam be above manny, so what? life goes on!! LOL!!!! the hell.. you expect me to stress over it because some posters online rank Usyk higher than Pac? I DONT CARE!!!

You asked what he had to do to get a W on the ATG list. You didn’t ask this.

Answered this in the post you quoted. Just because he isn’t above some ATG Americans doesn’t mean he is below all of them.

Why are you only asking about black people? Why not Mexicans, Panamanians, British? You need to stop letting your hatred for black peoplemdrive your thinking.

You missed the point- you racists and Pac ball gobblers don’t ask those questions because they don’t lead to race wars or Floyd dissing, which is the only goal.

Stop pretending you don’t care. If a thread like that were created you’d be defending Manny as you are a ball gobbling Stan.

More to the point- Floyd fans aren’t insecure like you guys. We don’t need to constantly make threads to try and lessen the guys Floyd beat. It doesn’t serve us in any way.

You guys NEED to lessen Floyd because you are mad you never saw him lose in the ring.

[daggum]

Lmfao. He is the best of his era as determined by media experts etc.

We get it. You and many of your buddies still hurt he easily beat Manny try to lessen his career.

Is what it is.

Fallacy warning: appeal to authority

He doesn't have any wins over prime greats and there's nothing you or any "media expert" can do to change that. How can someone be the best if he never beat the best should be the next question asked...

And He didnt even beat an old pac if you score on clean punches. He was barely grazing him with feather jabs while pac landed all the hard impactful punches. We can go back and watch it now without emotion(well some of us can) and the punches just weren't there for him to deserve to win. At least Jake paul beat Tyson legit. Maybe Jake paul is the best of his era? Paul and Floyd are one and the same. Frauds

[The Big Dunn]

Fallacy warning: appeal to authority

He doesn't have any wins over prime greats and there's nothing you or any "media expert" can do to change that. How can someone be the best if he never beat the best should be the next question asked...

And He didnt even beat an old pac if you score on clean punches. He was barely grazing him with feather jabs while pac landed all the hard impactful punches. We can go back and watch it now without emotion(well some of us can) and the punches just weren't there for him to deserve to win. At least Jake paul beat Tyson legit. Maybe Jake paul is the best of his era? Paul and Floyd are one and the same. Frauds

You have absolutely no credibility or integrity.

You use rank to determine resume for Eastern Europeans than change when it’s Americans and Mexicans you don’t like.

He beat them when they chose to fight him.

Writers have a journalistic oath they adhere to.They can’t play dumb and biased like you and others when you pretend these guys weren’t bigger earners before Floyd beat ODH and refused to fight him. They can’t lie that Manny refused to fight him because he didn’t want to take PED tests, not agreeing until after Floyd took the deal off the table.

They can’t pretend Floyd didn’t easily beat Manny when they fought liken you do in this post. They can’t dishonestly pretend Pretty Boy and Money were treated the same.

Perhaps when you show some honesty and integrity by ranking all opponents with the same standard will you be taken seriously.

[IceTrayDaGang]

You asked what he had to do to get a W on the ATG list. You didn’t ask this.

Answered this in the post you quoted. Just because he isn’t above some ATG Americans doesn’t mean he is below all of them.

Why are you only asking about black people? Why not Mexicans, Panamanians, British? You need to stop letting your hatred for black peoplemdrive your thinking.

You missed the point- you racists and Pac ball gobblers don’t ask those questions because they don’t lead to race wars or Floyd dissing, which is the only goal.

Stop pretending you don’t care. If a thread like that were created you’d be defending Manny as you are a ball gobbling Stan.

More to the point- Floyd fans aren’t insecure like you guys. We don’t need to constantly make threads to try and lessen the guys Floyd beat. It doesn’t serve us in any way.

You guys NEED to lessen Floyd because you are mad you never saw him lose in the ring.

yes, meaning he's already on there. then i further explained what i meant. I said seems like you only praise him when comparing him to other europeans but as soon as his name gets mentioned along some of the greats african americans of the past, he can never be above them!!! so that right there says he's on the ATG list but can never go pass the greats AA!!! why you always gotta lie???

[IceTrayDaGang]

You asked what he had to do to get a W on the ATG list. You didn’t ask this.

Answered this in the post you quoted. Just because he isn’t above some ATG Americans doesn’t mean he is below all of them.

Why are you only asking about black people? Why not Mexicans, Panamanians, British? You need to stop letting your hatred for black peoplemdrive your thinking.

You missed the point- you racists and Pac ball gobblers don’t ask those questions because they don’t lead to race wars or Floyd dissing, which is the only goal.

Stop pretending you don’t care. If a thread like that were created you’d be defending Manny as you are a ball gobbling Stan.

More to the point- Floyd fans aren’t insecure like you guys. We don’t need to constantly make threads to try and lessen the guys Floyd beat. It doesn’t serve us in any way.

You guys NEED to lessen Floyd because you are mad you never saw him lose in the ring.

the bolded

I DONT CARE!! you said floyd is better than manny. do you see me throwing a tantrum about it???? cool, you feel floyd is better than manny. i have more important things in the real world to worry about than to stress over someone saying floyd is better than manny. that's the difference between us. i really dont care. you think im supposed to worship manny like you do with floyd?????? LOL. never.