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  • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

    LOL.. 0-2 for Usyk!!! i think i know why.
    Yeah all of us except you know why- his resume doesn’t elevate him above Ali or Floyd. Nothing controversial about that as Ali is one of the top 2 ATG boxers and Floyd is somewhere between 10-20.

    Only agenda driven racists like you thinks it’s because Usyk is a white Eastern European and Ali and Floyd are black and from America.

    My guess is if a Manny fan like you claimed Usyk wasn’t better than Manny, you wouldn’t say it’s because they are Asian or Filipino. Same if a Mexican fan said Chavez or Sanchez was better. Or if they said Duran is better.

    You only hold black posters opinions to the race standard.

    Stop letting your hatred of black people drive how you see things. It’s unhealthy.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; Today, 06:49 AM.

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      yes, usyk is literally unbeatabke. Floyd was only unbeatable with gift decisions fighting in backyard, and only if he didn't fight ggg at 160, or Nelo without a cw, whilst green without rematches, etc etc You suggest floyd give rematch, you were greeted with either sarcasm, or excuses.?
      I don't see a way floyd can be as great as usyk. Usyk literally done everything. Floyd never did anything you wanted him, whether it fight outside backyard, give rematch, or fight toughest available
      Why did you delete the post after Floyd beat all the boxers you stated he needed to beat to be an ATG?

      Why not just be a man and admit you were wrong that he couldn’t beat all of them?

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      • Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

        Would you agree that the level of competition is usually significantly higher in the lower weight classes though? i'd say most of the talent in boxing is concentrated between 135-160. That means the average level of skill and athleticism of the guys you face is going to be higher, which means its more difficult to succeed there than somewhere like HW, hence why p4p exists.
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        take a look at any of those weight classes they are full of average boxres lol atletic people usually play football for the cash, same as the big guys in america dont box and play BB this is the theory anway

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Yeah all of us except you know why- his resume doesn’t elevate him above Ali or Floyd. Nothing controversial about that as Ali is one of the top 2 ATG boxers and Floyd is somewhere between 10-20.

          Only agenda driven racists like you thinks it’s because Usyk is a white Eastern European and Ali and Floyd are black and from America.

          My guess is if a Manny fan like you claimed Usyk wasn’t better than Manny, you wouldn’t say it’s because they are Asian or Filipino. Same if a Mexican fan said Chavez or Sanchez was better. Or if they said Duran is better.

          You only hold black posters opinions to the race standard.

          Stop letting your hatred of black people drive how you see things. It’s unhealthy.
          what does Usyk gotta do to get a W on the ATG list? seems like you only give him props and praise him high when he's being compared to other europeans but soon as his name gets mentioned along some of the greats african americans of the past, he can never be above them.

          i dont give a damm if posters say Usyk is better than manny... that's their opinion... doesnt mean i gotta agree with it. but i wouldnt care!! that's the difference...
          Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; Today, 07:56 AM.

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            Why did you delete the post after Floyd beat all the boxers you stated he needed to beat to be an ATG?

            Why not just be a man and admit you were wrong that he couldn’t beat all of them?
            Nobody knows what on earth you are on about. Whatever your on about I'm sure it took floyd 10 years to best hatton, cotto, dlh and SSM. And by the time floyd fought and best them, there were new kids on the block, from thurman, spence, bud and brook and bradley. Please forgive me if I've missed anyone, it's been a long day and I'm a little tired

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            • Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post
              Anywhere where floyd is mentioned here comes DJ throwing Shade lol.
              Lol. No shade needed.

              Usyk winning the poll quite easily speaks for itself. Speaks for all the shortcomings Floyd critics had.

              Status isn't determined on boxrec boxrecboy, it's determined by beating the best at their best.

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              • Got to give it to Usyk, Floyd ducked all the fighters that would have made him great
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                • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                  yes, usyk is literally unbeatabke. Floyd was only unbeatable with gift decisions fighting in backyard, and only if he didn't fight ggg at 160, or Nelo without a cw, whilst green without rematches, etc etc You suggest floyd give rematch, you were greeted with either sarcasm, or excuses.?
                  I don't see a way floyd can be as great as usyk. Usyk literally done everything. Floyd never did anything you wanted him, whether it fight outside backyard, give rematch, or fight toughest available
                  This is what it boils down to for me. There's a crazy long list of guys everyone wanted Floyd to fight but he didn't. Loads of asterisks against his name. Not so with Usyk. He went towards the fire, Floyd retired and played business man many times.

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                  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    Nobody knows what on earth you are on about. Whatever your on about I'm sure it took floyd 10 years to best hatton, cotto, dlh and SSM. And by the time floyd fought and best them, there were new kids on the block, from thurman, spence, bud and brook and bradley. Please forgive me if I've missed anyone, it's been a long day and I'm a little tired
                    You do. The post is saved in poster Jedi Vader’s sig.

                    Why you gotta lie about it?

                    Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG. Once he did, your hatred caused you to delete the post and then, as you do here, move the goalposts.

                    Too bad Floyd doing what you thought he couldn’t stripped you of what little manhood you have. Just admit you were wrong and give him the credit he earned.

                    You have no credibility.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      You do. The post is saved in poster Jedi Vader’s sig.

                      Why you gotta lie about it?

                      Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG. Once he did, your hatred caused you to delete the post and then, as you do here, move the goalposts.

                      Too bad Floyd doing what you thought he couldn’t stripped you of what little manhood you have. Just admit you were wrong and give him the credit he earned.

                      You have no credibility.
                      the people have spoken. No real argument left to say that Floyd is the greatest fighter of this century

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