Rolly looked really solid at Welter weight, can he go places?

[billeau2]

Well said genius! Now let me ask you this question. Who won their fight at Times Square on Friday; Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney? Ok then I rest my case.

Haney was bouncing around the ring, jabbing while landing occasional right hands. While Ryan, fought as if he didn’t want to fight or be there anymore.

I think he mentally checked out well before the Rolly fight. He checked out the moment he tested clean for steroids and PED use.

A reasonable person can deduce when Ryan is not hopped on dope he is a completely different fighter. You and your ilk are just in denial.

Shame on Oscar for putting his guy in there clean with no PEDs in his system. Ryan should just retire. His heart is definitely not in the sport anymore.

He has arguably lost three of his last four fights. That Haney fight was an unofficial loss in my judgement because he cheated.

Haney may have won according to the judges but looked very tentative. he will get dropped... Ad we will cry for him... The law does not guarantee that someone is not cheating. Haney found a technical way to come in overweight, that is cheating, even if it not against the law. I am using rationality with no bias... It is a fact that we can never know the extent that Ryan, or any other fighter was "helped" along by taking a steriod.

If you are of the opinion that the steriods are the reason for Ryan's success then bless you. You are entitled to any opinion...just do not call it a fact. And when hankey gets dropped I will send a hankey!

[champion4ever]

Haney may have won according to the judges but looked very tentative. he will get dropped... Ad we will cry for him... The law does not guarantee that someone is not cheating. Haney found a technical way to come in overweight, that is cheating, even if it not against the law. I am using rationality with no bias... It is a fact that we can never know the extent that Ryan, or any other fighter was "helped" along by taking a steriod.

If you are of the opinion that the steriods are the reason for Ryan's success then bless you. You are entitled to any opinion...just do not call it a fact. And when hankey gets dropped I will send a hankey!

You cool bro!! I am just fucking with you. Actually, I like you. I find you to be one of the most level -headed posters here on NSB.

I know on occasion that I can be a real prick at times. So please don’t pay me no mind. It’s never personal. I am only trying to get my point across.

However my concerns about Ryan’s well being are real.
Judging by.his aberrant behavior; All I am hearing from him is a cry for help!

Mental health and substance abuse issues among professional athletes are real; Especially.among boxers. It is what destroyed Aaron Pryor’s career.

A boxing ring is not where Ryan belongs at the present moment but inside of a mental hospital in order to receive the type of help that he so desperately needs.

[The Big Dunn]

He can go to a main event PPV against Boots and get demolished.

[billeau2]

You cool bro!! I am just fucking with you. Actually, I like you. I find you to be one of the most level -headed posters here on NSB.

I know on occasion that I can be a real prick at times. So please don’t pay me no mind. It’s never personal. I am only trying to get my point across.

However my concerns about Ryan’s well being are real.
Judging by.his aberrant behavior; All I am hearing from him is a cry for help!

Mental health and substance abuse issues among professional athletes are real; Especially.among boxers. It is what destroyed Aaron Pryor’s career.

A boxing ring is not where Ryan belongs at the present moment but inside of a mental hospital in order to receive the type of help that he so desperately needs.

. I got/get it. Thats why I joke with you... I actually would not seriously ridicule a fighter. I always figure I take a great joke, having two sons who are practical jokers (like their dad), so I can do so with a fighter lol.

The sad truth is the same traits that often make a very determined addict make a great fighter. Human biology and neuro programming is a lot like these new cars they make which are so hard to work on now... Everything is squished into and next to other things. Our capacity for violence and the rush area for chemicals in the brain... right near the se x gratification centers. The traits of a sociopath, even a psychopath? can be applied and used to great effect in positions of leadership... Many great men have had such traits.

Drugs are an adrenal rush, they create danger, adventure, often compulsive actions... Some of the same traits rewarded getting into a boxing ring.

I do not think this means we have to become addicts, sociopaths, and psychopaths, it is just something to be aware of. These young guys? I do not think any of them are set, or doomed. Unfortunately what they need is not being used as a means to an end. Interesting aside, maybe something we even can agree on here lol, Rolly. His dad reminds me of the Puerto Rican dads my friends had when I was growing up in East Harlem. His dad seems to love the kid, does seem to be respected and nurturing to Rolly. Rolly is acward at times and talks a great fight up but IMO he seems to have those authority resources in place and it seems to serve him well. Lopez' dad by comparison really is hard on that kid.

[billeau2]

He can go to a main event PPV against Boots and get demolished.

Once Boots tastes that power though! Rolly has no real quickness does he? We had this kid in high school always getting into everyone's face. Slow hands, slow as an ox... I was kidding with another friend over the phone and suddenly went "Ohhh!!!" he asks "whats up you ok," I tell him "remember in 9th grade (we are both sixty) when Timothy threw that punch at me?" he says "yeah so?" "man it just landed!"

[Tatabanya]

Even I would look solid in front of a being made of hair grease.