Rolly looked really solid at Welter weight, can he go places?

[champion4ever]

Lmao hankey got whooped because he got caught with Ryan's left hook. Hankey lost to a better fighter whos also his size. Stop crying

Get the fuck outta here! Rolly ain’t shit. All Ryan had to do is throw punches to get him out of there but he couldn’t; Because without that dope in his system Ryan Garcia ain’t shit!

[billeau2]

You know I am right and about 95 percent of the members on this forum knows I am right. Had Ryan Garcia been clean with no PEDS in his system against Devin Haney he would have gotten his ass whupped.

Just like Rolly did to him. A doped up Ryan hopped up on steroids is super fast, strong, big and powerful. He is off of them now and he ain't shit! To tell you the truth. Rolly was being set up to fail. He was a cherrypicked safe opponent.

Ryan Garcia only picked him because he believed he was a ruined fighter. Whose skills have diminished and best years were behind him..

I know no such thing. Members who are experts on Peds will tell you that we do not know what effects this drug had on Ryan. You are assuming that the drug is responsible for Ryan being listless. It could have been the time off, or, was he really that defunct? I mean his jab was good, maybe Rolly just neutralized the hook. You have a love affair with Devon... Get a room

[Smash]

I mean his jab was good, maybe Rolly just neutralized the hook.

this is rolly we are talking about here

[billeau2]

this is rolly we are talking about here

. Okay Rolly probably did not neutralize the hook.

[champion4ever]

I know no such thing. Members who are experts on Peds will tell you that we do not know what effects this drug had on Ryan. You are assuming that the drug is responsible for Ryan being listless. It could have been the time off, or, was he really that defunct? I mean his jab was good, maybe Rolly just neutralized the hook. You have a love affair with Devon... Get a room

Numbers don’t lie. The fact is that the Garcia/Romero bout set a record for the second least amount of punches thrown in compubox history.

Scull/Canelo was the least amount of punches thrown in compubox history. Now back to Ryan Garcia.

You fanboys have to realize that Garcia’s troubles runs much deeper than just substance abuse. He is now a broken and lost fighter.

He showed no signs of life or fight in there against Rolly Romero. After that second round knockdown. He just simply refused to try.

The difference between Haney and Garcia is that Haney is not a broken fighter. He is just a scarred one as a result of his fight with Ryan.

All he needs to do is to relax, loosen and lighten up more. I thought he fought too anxiously against Ramirez. He was very tense and tight in there.

Which was understandably so. After his ordeal with a notorious steroid cheat. Whenever Garcia managed to land those left hooks on Romero he ate them.

There was no excuse for Ryan Garcia losing to a fighter like Rolly. Who had been dropped and stopped several times in his career and was considered a gatekeeper status.

Now contrast that against Devin Haney who had never lost, been dropped or stopped before in his career. Yet Ryan Garcia still managed to overwhelm and dominate him with his punching power.

So goddamn it. Don’t tell me that PED use did not play a significant in role Garcia’s performance against Devin Haney. The empirical evidence is just too stunning and astounding.

[billeau2]

Numbers don’t lie. The fact is that the Garcia/Romero bout set a record for the second least amount of punches thrown in compubox history.

Scull/Canelo was the least amount of punches thrown in compubox history. Now back to Ryan Garcia.

You fanboys have to realize that Garcia’s troubles runs much deeper than just substance abuse. He is now a broken and lost fighter.

He showed no signs of life or fight in there against Rolly Romero. After that second round knockdown. He just simply refused to try.

The difference between Haney and Garcia is that Haney is not a broken fighter. He is just a scarred one as a result of his fight with Ryan.

All he needs to do is to relax, loosen and lighten up more. I thought he fought too anxiously against Ramirez. He was very tense and tight in there.

Which was understandably so. After his ordeal with a notorious steroid cheat. Whenever Garcia managed to land those left hooks on Romero he ate them.

There was no excuse for Ryan Garcia losing to a fighter like Rolly. Who had been dropped and stopped several times in his career and was considered a gatekeeper status.

Now contrast that against Devin Haney who had never lost, been dropped or stopped before in his career. Yet Ryan Garcia still managed to overwhelm and dominate him with his punching power.

So goddamn it. Don’t tell me that PED use did not play a significant in role Garcia’s performance against Devin Haney. The empirical evidence is just too stunning and astounding.

I am not a fan of Ryan's just someone who feels like Haney is a train wreck waiting to happen.. Your missing my point. I agree about the fight, it was peculiar, I just do not think you can ascribe it to chemical use...Maybe. I would never tell you that the amount of whatever Ryan took definitely DID NOT influence him... We can never know thats a fact. And no there is no great correlation to a Ryan who came in against Haney with no neck, no nads, a deep voice, ripped to shreds... that would suggest a major chemical influence. Even the test results show a paltry amount in his system.

So the kid had a bad fight... Ryan could lose 10 more fights and be counted out as having no heart, being scared etc and still turn around and win a championship. A bad fight for a young fighter does not make a predestined career. There is nothing broken about Ryan, he is not even thirty! Your quite a hypocrite in how much levity you extend to Devin compared to Ryan. You also use a law to conveniently overlook Devin's cheating. He weighed more than Ryan for their fight ahem!

Lol, by your definition? Haney is ten times more broken than Ryan! . Ryan had a bad outing, Haney lost to Ryan, lost to a Messican in a street fare, with backup, and did not look any better than Ryan last fight.

[champion4ever]

I am not a fan of Ryan's just someone who feels like Haney is a train wreck waiting to happen.. Your missing my point. I agree about the fight, it was peculiar, I just do not think you can ascribe it to chemical use...Maybe. I would never tell you that the amount of whatever Ryan took definitely DID NOT influence him... We can never know thats a fact. And no there is no great correlation to a Ryan who came in against Haney with no neck, no nads, a deep voice, ripped to shreds... that would suggest a major chemical influence. Even the test results show a paltry amount in his system.

So the kid had a bad fight... Ryan could lose 10 more fights and be counted out as having no heart, being scared etc and still turn around and win a championship. A bad fight for a young fighter does not make a predestined career. There is nothing broken about Ryan, he is not even thirty! Your quite a hypocrite in how much levity you extend to Devin compared to Ryan. You also use a law to conveniently overlook Devin's cheating. He weighed more than Ryan for their fight ahem!

Lol, by your definition? Haney is ten times more broken than Ryan! . Ryan had a bad outing, Haney lost to Ryan, lost to a Messican in a street fare, with backup, and did not look any better than Ryan last fight.

Well said genius! Now let me ask you this question. Who won their fight at Times Square on Friday; Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney? Ok then I rest my case.

Haney was bouncing around the ring, jabbing while landing occasional right hands. While Ryan, fought as if he didn’t want to fight or be there anymore.

I think he mentally checked out well before the Rolly fight. He checked out the moment he tested clean for steroids and PED use.

A reasonable person can deduce when Ryan is not hopped on dope he is a completely different fighter. You and your ilk are just in denial.

Shame on Oscar for putting his guy in there clean with no PEDs in his system. Ryan should just retire. His heart is definitely not in the sport anymore.

He has arguably lost three of his last four fights. That Haney fight was an unofficial loss in my judgement because he cheated.

[hugh grant]

Everyone seems to come from nowhere

[LG Motel 22]

Ennis and Haney should fight each other and stink the joint out

Winner gets the GOAT Rollies

Canelo old and ducking, Crawford about to retire, tank has fallen, Inoue too Japanese for Americans, Rolly to come in and be the new face of boxing

[billeau2]

Well said genius! Now let me ask you this question. Who won their fight at Times Square on Friday; Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney? Ok then I rest my case.

Haney was bouncing around the ring, jabbing while landing occasional right hands. While Ryan, fought as if he didn’t want to fight or be there anymore.

I think he mentally checked out well before the Rolly fight. He checked out the moment he tested clean for steroids and PED use.

A reasonable person can deduce when Ryan is not hopped on dope he is a completely different fighter. You and your ilk are just in denial.

Shame on Oscar for putting his guy in there clean with no PEDs in his system. Ryan should just retire. His heart is definitely not in the sport anymore.

He has arguably lost three of his last four fights. That Haney fight was an unofficial loss in my judgement because he cheated.

Haney may have won according to the judges but looked very tentative. he will get dropped... Ad we will cry for him... The law does not guarantee that someone is not cheating. Haney found a technical way to come in overweight, that is cheating, even if it not against the law. I am using rationality with no bias... It is a fact that we can never know the extent that Ryan, or any other fighter was "helped" along by taking a steriod.

If you are of the opinion that the steriods are the reason for Ryan's success then bless you. You are entitled to any opinion...just do not call it a fact. And when hankey gets dropped I will send a hankey!