Would you rather see Usyk-Parker or Usyk-Dubois II?

[hugh grant]

Parker v ddd. Usyk v kabayel

[hugh grant]

Bullshit man! He was robbed! Watch the replay. The punch was on the belt line. A fighter can adjust and push his trunks down all they want.

However, if any punch touches any part of his body it is still considered a legal punch. The shot was a borderline punch. I would grant and concede you that point.

However, that punch was still a legal blow. Even if it partially landed on his trunks.

I think the punch was a low blow as it landed way below the elbow point, the belly button shouldn't be far from bottom point of elbow really.
But the thing is refs often allow these, so I do understand idea ddd was robbed. It could ve been a scenario where usyk lost and deserved rematch as it was controversial stoppage type thing

[Haka]

Parker is in line next who Duckbois ducked. if you got punched by a top HW below the belt on the protection the whole force gets distributed in across the protection piece. Therefore it is a low blow and has the effects of a low blow. Anyone who denies this has barely picked up a pair of gloves in their life.

[champion4ever]

I think the punch was a low blow as it landed way below the elbow point, the belly button shouldn't be far from bottom point of elbow really.
But the thing is refs often allow these, so I do understand idea ddd was robbed. It could ve been a scenario where usyk lost and deserved rematch as it was controversial stoppage type thing

Anything punch that lands below the belt line is a foul or a low blow. Any punch that lands on the belt line and above is considered legal. Whether it’s on the belly button or not.

[Bronson66]

A bit of a **** stir atm with the Heavyweight division, which I think is unfair for Joseph Parker because he is more deserving of a title shot next against Usyk than Dubois.

Well, you know it; situations like these do appear given the current state it's in. I believe they are close to a confirmed deal that's soon to be announced for Usyk-Dubois II.

We have to ask the fans the real question, tho. Would you rather watch what?

Usyk v Parker.

[Bronson66]

Parker v ddd. Usyk v kabayel

If Usyk is susceptible to body shots.Kabayel is the guy to prove it!

[crimsonfalcon07]

It’s really up to the discretion of the referee. Also, if a fighter is wearing his trunks below the belly button near his groin area. Then it is the responsibility of the ref to make sure that he adjust his trunks.

Holy double standards. If it's up to the discretion of the ref (which it is), then the only thing that matters is the ruling of the ref, and it was therefore an illegal blow because it was below the line designated by the ref.
If it's defined by the rules (which it also is, and you apparently don't know them), then it's anything below the navel/hip line, making it an illegal blow.

He is wearing them too low. If a punch touches any part of the skin. It’s considered legal.

There's nothing in the rules about where you have to wear your trunks. The only thing that matters is the hip line, which is why Tyson Fury can wear his shorts up to his armpits. I've read the rules many times and in every one of my fights, the ref has designated the low blow line with reference to the navel. Let's see you prove where the rules say anything at all about where you wear your trunks.

No matter how you slice it, both the rules and the discretion of the ref make it clear that for that bout, it was a low blow. And as I've said before, it wasn't the only one landed. A ref may let low blows slide with a warning if the foul doesn't affect the injured fighter's ability to continue, but that doesn't make it not a foul, and the unified rules of boxing (14) require the ref to permit the injured boxer up to 5 mins to recover in the case of an accidental foul. Since that wasn't the first low blow and Dubois had been warned about it, rule 13a says that the ref could have ruled that intentional, which would have resulted in a mandatory 2 point deduction from Dubois. He was lucky it was ruled accidental (which is likely also why he and his corner didn't protest at the time of the call, or at any time until after the fight was finalized).

[crimsonfalcon07]

Anything punch that lands below the belt line is a foul or a low blow. Any punch that lands on the belt line and above is considered legal. Whether it’s on the belly button or not.

False. The beltline can be worn high or low, which is why it's not the determining point for low blows. It's sometimes used for convenience, but in point of fact, the navel/hip line is the low blow line. You don't know the rules.

[kafkod]

You are disqualified. Everyone with eyes knows that was not a low blow

Well then someone needs to tell that to Tony Weeks because Andre Ward was landing a lot of borderline below the belly button punches on Sergei Kovalev too and eventually stopped him.

It’s really up to the discretion of the referee. Also, if a fighter is wearing his trunks below the belly button near his groin area. Then it is the responsibility of the ref to make sure that he adjust his trunks.

He is wearing them too low. If a punch touches any part of the skin. It’s considered legal.

Ward getting away with hitting Kovalev low doesn't mean there is no such thing as a low blow anymore. If somebody gets away with murder, does that mean murder is no longer a crime?

The punch that dropped Usyk didn't touch any part of his skin and he wasn't wearing his trunks either too high or too low.

And if it's all down to the ref's discretion, then what are you even arguing about here? The ref called it a low blow, immediately, without any appeal from Usyk.

The Association of Boxing Commissions set the rules for all world title fights, and the ABC rules say this: "Fouls may include, but are not limited to, the following types of contact or acts:1. Hitting an opponent below the navel"

https://www.abcboxing.com/abc-regulatory-guidelines/

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That's a low blow. There really is nothing to argue about here.

[kafkod]

False. The beltline can be worn high or low, which is why it's not the determining point for low blows. It's sometimes used for convenience, but in point of fact, the navel/hip line is the low blow line. You don't know the rules.

It amazes me that, no matter how many times they have it explained to them, some people can't get their heads around the fact that "the beltline" is an imaginary line around a fighters body, not the waistband of their trunks.