Comments Thread For: Lamont Roach camp appeals the Gervonta Davis draw, matter seems bound for rematch

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  • billeau2
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    #21
    Originally posted by BoxOfficer
    A rematch doesn't do justice to the matter whatsoever and should not be contemplated as a solution. The matter goes beyond a KD/point deduction even though an obvious KD occured. The fact that Tanks corner attended to him without a timeout call by the ref, supercedes everything else. A DQ is the right call. And Tank's team can't argue that they would have upped their game afterwards in the case of a DQ as could be argued in the case of a KD.
    Great post! It is true... A DQ resolves a lot of problems... No longer do we have this idea that Tank might have risen to the occasion if he knew Roach got the point. I think that argument is weak to begin with because aren't fighters supposed to try to win the fight at all times? Tank knew he was in a close fight...

    But a DQ would be a correct ruling and nobody can complain about what might have been. What they will look at is the relative actions of all involved, and who can be called responsible for the actions leading up to the event. I believe it would look something like this: Tank originally takes a knee, this means the ref should have penalized him, deducted him... At that point was Tank's foul egregious enough? Because then the ref steps in and enables him...

    So, was Tank the primary means of the DQ, or was it the ref that enabled him? This will be a sticky point because usually when a ref is negligent this is not enough to overturn a fight. The fighter has to be at least somewhat responsible for causing the problem.

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    • 57Blues
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      #22
      Originally posted by BirdSong

      thats the way its always been LOL
      " thats the way it has always been" unless you are a PPV fabricated star then things change fast..........

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      • BirdSong
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        #23
        Originally posted by 57Blues

        " thats the way it has always been" unless you are a PPV fabricated star then things change fast..........
        people like canelo and tank make money for OTHER people because they have fans who actually BUY their events so they get special treatment as a result

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          #24
          Originally posted by Nightfall
          In his mind he thinks he won the fight but has accepted the draw and a rematch. If Roach win the appeal and its overturned then it won't be a rematch out of anger. Tank will move on and Roach big rematch bag is gone.
          I have to disagree. Tank is gonna want revenge and try to ko Roach in a rematch. I think Tank is satified with a draw because he dodged a bullet.

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          • labash
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            #25
            Cab we have unbiased assessments??? Everyone taking sides that suits their interests! No matter the hatred, Tank ain't no joke for anyone 130-140. A bad night doesn't discredit his credentials let's get that in. Zab vs Floyd Jr witness undetected point when Floyd Jr touched the canvass! Crawford vs Kavaliau with a barrage of 4 punches that dropped Bud , there was no deduction nor count. AJ vs Pulev saw a back turn by Pulev to AJ, REF NEITHER stopped nor count pulev. Let's have a rematch period. What u y'all gonna say if Tank stopped Roach??? Maidana and Cadtillo made all d noise vs Floyd Jr but rematch were not debatable

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              #26
              Originally posted by labash
              Cab we have unbiased assessments??? Everyone taking sides that suits their interests! No matter the hatred, Tank ain't no joke for anyone 130-140. A bad night doesn't discredit his credentials let's get that in. Zab vs Floyd Jr witness undetected point when Floyd Jr touched the canvass! Crawford vs Kavaliau with a barrage of 4 punches that dropped Bud , there was no deduction nor count. AJ vs Pulev saw a back turn by Pulev to AJ, REF NEITHER stopped nor count pulev. Let's have a rematch period. What u y'all gonna say if Tank stopped Roach??? Maidana and Cadtillo made all d noise vs Floyd Jr but rematch were not debatable
              None of those other events you cited impacted the outcome of the fights.

              Floyd beat Zab 119-109, 117-111, 116-112. A knockdown is irrelevant to the outcome.
              Crawford knocked out Kavaliauskas. A knockdown is irrelevant to the outcome.
              Joshua knocked out Pulev. A knockdown or back turn is irrelevant to the outcome.

              But this fight? This was a robbery in 4 different ways:
              1. With the knockdown counted the cards would've been 115-112, 114-113, 114-113 UD win for Roach.
              2. Gervonta's corner got up on the apron during a round. That should be an instant RTD or DQ win for Roach.
              3. Gervonta's corner worked on his face during a round. That should be an instant DQ win for Roach.
              4. Even without the knockdown, DQ, or RTD Roach won the majority of the rounds. They robbed him on the cards.

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              • Wacked_Out
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                #27
                This drives me nuts. Nobody should be thinking rematch after a screwjob. 1. Why should the perpetrators be rewarded with another opportunity? 2. It is mental illness for a fighter to want to go right back and get screwed a second time. 3. As a fan I want to distance myself from this horse$#it, not watch it again.
                Doesnt anyone understand that if the scammers know there will be a rematch, they will continue to screw fighters in the future? Why wouldnt they? They will keep jamming them until they get the outcome they want obviously. And you the fan shouldnt be clamoring for a rematch unless you want to see more and more screwjobs. Don't enable them. Why can't anyone see this?!
                Last edited by Wacked_Out; 03-06-2025, 03:45 PM.

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                  #28
                  I am happy and he should. Rules were made to be broken and Tank just so happened to break one of them. So I say do the right thing by giving Lamont Roach his victory back by overturning that split Draw to a win for Lamont.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tokon
                    Just can't see NYAC awarding Roach the win. NC might be a more realistic outcome, which Roach might not want? Can they even order an immediate rematch if they let the decision stand as it is, or would that need to be done by the sanctioning body as it's for their championship?
                    No, only the sanctioning body can.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      Its going to be near impossible to explain why they didnt, If Roach camp is appealing they going to have to over turn the decision based it on being scored a draw, a point must be taken for the knee without the other infringements that also happened, they gotta give Roach the win.
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                      While what you’re saying is true and correct, Tank is the A side and PBC has a lot of pull. Haymon is a heavy hitter.
                      Rest assured Tank is not losing his L. He even told Roach during the fight “they aren’t going to give you this fight”. Tank knows. We all know.

                      Most likely, Roach gets paid $2 million side cash to agree to a rematch. He then gets a guaranteed $5 million for the rematch. Thats a payday he will never see again. He’ll take it.

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