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Did Deontay Wilder have elite ATG power or was his power overrated?

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  • #21
    His power was likely real... He was so unskilled, he would lose every round against awful boxers until that right hand landed, and then come through... but that was v C/D level opp... would they have gone down anyway?

    Truth is, we can't say it definitely is because he didn't fight the opposition to prove it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

      What iron chin guy did he ever fight?

      Only Zhang, who ate those right hands for breakfast.

      There was nobody else.
      If wilder couldve sparked Parker id use that as proof he could punch real legitely..
      True when he fought top 10 guys he found ko s deserting him and was found wanting. But maybe that's not proof he didn't have legit power, but rather his power couldn't make up for his woeful lack of boxing ability, because power won't always get you out of jail
      Last edited by hugh grant; 06-10-2024, 04:16 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        If wilder couldve sparked Parker id use that as proof he could punch real legitely..
        True when he fought top 10 guys he found ko s deserting him and was found wanting. But maybe that's not proof he didn't have legit power, but rather his power couldn't make up for his wieful lack of boxing ability, because power won't always get you out of jail
        He couldn't even hurt Parker, when zhang put Parker on his ass with shots that didn't seem heavy at all
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        • #24
          Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
          Not sure. He ****ed a lot of guys up but also Duphapas went 11 rounds with him.
          Duhaupas hadn't been stopped prior to Wilder and was known to be fairly durable even before Wilder fought him. Often times, once a fighter's chin is cracked the resistance is never the same.

          As to the OP's question, he gives two options: ATG power or overrated. I don't think it's either. I think Wilder hit incredibly hard, that power and his belief in it allowed him to have incredible success without any real boxing ability.

          This topic keeps getting brought up by NSB posters, they can do themselves a favor and save everyone's time. Do an online search about those fighters who either sparred or fought Wilder and see what their opinion was. Every response I've seen was that Deontay had a great deal of power.

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          • #25
            No one even remotely ATG level to test his power against.
            Crap HW era

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            • #26
              Parker is on record saying Zhang punches harder.


              Those 2 guys fought as well, Zhang knocked Deontay dead

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              • #27
                He obviously hit very hard. But against better opposition he wouldnt have been able to land as succesfully and the return fire would have been more of an issue so his power wouldnt have bailed him out as often.

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                • #28
                  Atg power, maybe top five heavyweight power, or at least top ten.
                  Shang just has one hell of a chin.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                    We here at the hall have had discussions about Wilder; the first leader of the 2015 - 2025 (post Klitschko) era to age out.

                    Had he met Joshua before aging out; it is generally believed that Joshua would have hung tough, ouboxing Wilder and imposing his superior strength on the slender American.
                    Joshua would sweep both the early and middle rounds as he gained momentum and picked up the pace.
                    Wilder would begin to show the wear and tear of being outstruck as Britain's darling weaved together his finest and most meaningful career performance as the transatlantic battle entered the double digit rounds pitching a near shutout.

                    Wilder, for all of the criticism leveled towards him, is a man who would and did fire any cornerman who would signal surrender before he has the chance to go out on his shield. But the one sidded fight continues apace.


                    And then, Wilder cracks his adversary with his bast shot of the fight.

                    And the fight is over, as team Joshua goes hastily about the business of reviving their fighter.

                    It could go no other way.

                    On October 19, 1781, British General Charles Cornwallis surrendered his army of some 8,000 men to General George Washington at Yorktown. With this, Britain would lose it's most valuable colony, and by 1885 the colony would surpass Britain in every measure of prosperity and strength.

                    Wilder's capabilites would insure that history was not forgotten.

                    The use of terms like tomato can, windmill seen across this thread and many others, is fan talk. Not knowing talk.​
                    Was this written by AI?
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post
                      No one even remotely ATG level to test his power against.
                      Crap HW era
                      What do you base this oft-repeated argument about the current era? I’m not trying to start something, I just hear it said over and over (it’s a crap heavyweight era, etc) with nothing to back it up statistically.

                      is it according to the eye test?

                      I just want reasons is all.

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