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Legends456
Legends456
Legends456
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  • Yeah I definitely thought RJJ was getting old when he got KTFO…. Anyway…....
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  • Yeah this is kind of my thing as well. It seems like people often make excuses and downplaying Usyk’s wins. At the same time, I feel like his wins against Joshua haven’t aged as well since DDD destroyed him. Also, Fury looked like **** against Ngannou and then Usyk barely beat him. Frankly,...
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  • I’m thinking you’re getting at similar conclusions that I am. Specifically, that much of Fury’s claim to ATG status, rested on Wilder being seen as an unstoppable force of nature that Fury (and ONLY Fury), had somehow managed to endure, and break down, and defeat. He had solved the...
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  • Sorry for the lack of clarity.

    I guess what I meant is that I remember when Fury was at the peak of his game and had just beaten Wilder in the Trilogy, and had beaten Whyte in front of 94,000 screaming British fans, that there was talk that on his day he could beat anybody in history....
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  • Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge Usyk fan. For reference I’m part Slavic myself and as we know, boxing is very tribal.

    That said, I just don’t see him competing speed-for-speed with Prime Ali. Also, if Lennox or Big George was landing the kind of shots Fury was landing...
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    replied to RIP Paul Mata AKA Zaroku
    Damn I know I’m really late to this thread but I’m really sorry to hear that.

    I’d sometimes get annoyed by his cryptic posts and go back and forth with him a bit, but then I’d get the impression he’d been thru a lot somehow and this was sort of like an outlet...
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  • I wouldn’t call Wilder fast, but rather quick. He has good release and timing.
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  • Legends456
    started a topic Best boxers?

    Best boxers?

    Who, in your opinion, are the best boxers currently fighting and why?
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  • Where’s LoadedWraps? He had a lot of good takes on Fury’s fighting style. Would love to hear what he thinks.
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  • Fury’s chin is very suspect.
    He basically walked through Wilder on several occasions, got knocked down a few times, and didn’t remember aspects of their third fight.
    Then Usyk punished him even worse in one round than Wilder had in three fights.

    I think his beard...
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  • Legends456
    started a topic Fury & Usyk Historical Ranking

    Fury & Usyk Historical Ranking

    Before Fury “won” a close fight with Ngannou, and lost to Usyk, many were hailing him as one of the great all-time heavyweights, and even said he’d have a shot head-to-head with any heavyweight from any era. I’m not just talking about random posters, but professional pundits...
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    Last edited by Legends456; 10-25-2024, 10:35 PM.
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  • I frankly thought Fury was pulling away with it before that ninth round. Or maybe the eighth round when Fury’s nose got broken. Either way, Usyk won that fight fairly, but Fury seemed more in that fight to me than a lot of pundits let on.
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  • He shouldn’t have said that, but having a concussion makes a person say and do some pretty ****** things. I’m speaking from experience....
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  • Losing fights at end of career: how does it affect a legacy?

    Greats like Ali, Holyfield, and RJJ all had rough endings to their careers, but are still (rightly) regarded very highly.

    Some more recent fighters I can think of have had some late losses and have had their stock fall dramatically.

    Would this be based off of a perceived lack...
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    replied to Is Keith Thurman retired?
    Personally, Mikey Garcia is my biggest disappointment from my generation, but that’s mostly because I feel he screwed his own career via mismanagement and inactivity without the excuse of all the recurrent injury problems Thurman had. Still, Keith Thurman is my close second, and it’s a shame...
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  • 1. Usyk and it’s not even close. Usyk was unstoppable at Cruiserweight, possibly the best Cruiserweight of all time. Then he went up to Heavyweight and unified against someone with SUBSTANTIAL weight and reach and height advantages. He also has two wins over Anthony Joshua, and a win over Daniel...
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    Last edited by Legends456; 10-21-2024, 10:12 AM. Reason: Had to use an archaic term for a particular religion, that for some reason Boxingscene won’t let me post the more mainstream word for.

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  • I’m very high on Beterbiev right now. Everyone talks about his power, but his defense and jab are also next level. In my opinion, he just won a razor-thin fight with basically the light-heavyweight version of Mayweather. I don’t think Wilder finds the target in this one.
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  • Agreed. We saw that with Deontay Wilder getting two huge “last chance” big fights with Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang. Even after getting Breazealed by Zhang, there’s still talk every once in awhile that they’re going to find him another opponent for yet another big “last...
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  • What a shame. Was expecting great things from him. Sad to see him go through what undoubtedly will leave him with some damages for the rest of his life.
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