Did Deontay Wilder have elite ATG power or was his power overrated?

[TheProudLunatic]

What do you base this oft-repeated argument about the current era? I’m not trying to start something, I just hear it said over and over (it’s a crap heavyweight era, etc) with nothing to back it up statistically.

is it according to the eye test?

I just want reasons is all.

Eye tests that come to fruition -
Clumsy AF
Lumbering
Non athletic
Utterly forgettable

I don't recall a HW era this decrepit.
The 80's was sad as well.
Thing is, no one was calling them ATGs

[YoungManRumble]

I wonder how his career would have played out if he didn't have them chicken legs, had a left hook and didn't abandon the jab entirely for that useless pawing, probing left hand. He never had a great jab but at one point it was at least useful for setting up the Alabama slamma.

[hugh grant]

He couldn't even hurt Parker, when zhang put Parker on his ass with shots that didn't seem heavy at all

Yes, wilder does have scary power, just less scary than zhangs, or shavers.
I think Richard Towers sparred with fury, josh, klitschos and said Wilder hits much harder

[Atypicalbrit]

He had excellent power but it was also overrated.

Guys like Johan Duhaupas and Chris Arreola took a TON of power shots from Wilder including flush right hands, yes he wore them down and stopped them but he just looked heavy handed in those fights and not this instant touch of death puncher he was always portrayed as.

He was excellent at sparking guys with dodgy chins but even against just rugged Journeymen he needed a lot of punches to get the job done.

That's why I never rated him that highly, against any elite fighter he's not going to spark them with a single shot and he's too poor of a boxer to land loads of punches without being countered with something, and as shown by Fury (NOT A PUNCHER), Wilder isn't capable of taking much punishment himself.

[Lance98]

He has knocked down and hurt damn near every guy he has faced outside of like 2 guys, so his power is real.

[hugh grant]

He has knocked down and hurt damn near every guy he has faced outside of like 2 guys, so his power is real.

Yes, his power is real. But his boxing ability is probably less than shavers. That's why wilder ko against top tens isn't good

[STREET CLEANER]

Terrible boxing skills but that right hand was legit. He put people to sleep, legit KOes.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Deontay Wilder clearly had serious power with his best single punch. But overall his offense was completely overrated.

Any all-time great offensive fighter, would of most likely beaten Tyson Fury in their third fight 'Fury in that fight especially when hurt, was there for the taking. Although Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury III, was in terms of passion, competitiveness and brutality a great fight? Skill for skill it was not really a high level fight, Wilder and Fury where fatigued and making unforced errors from round 2 onwards'.

In that fight, if only Deontay Wilder had the ability to display more variation on his punches 'Or come straight down the middle with power punches, I honest think he would been able to get Tyson Fury out of there'.

What lead to Tyson Fury first being knocked down in that fight, was Fury pulling is favourite move on the inside 'For many years I have been highlighting Fury's clumsiness on the inside, and it is only really over this past year? I have seen other people within the boxing community become much more vocal about his sophistication and technical drawbacks in this area. Me? I was stating it for many years'.

Tyson Fury during the fourth round of Wilder vs Fury II 'For no apparent reason, decided to square up to Deontay Wilder on the inside. And stand right in front of him, as of he was opening the front door to his house. Then BAM, Deontay Wilder whacked Tyson Fury and decked him'.

David Haye, Alexandre Povetkin, Wladimir Kiltschko 'Those fighters have been the most recent Heavyweight fighters, of this modern generation. Who have a combination of power, accuracy and extreme sophistication with their offense. If at the moment when Tyson Fury was hurt vs Deontay Wilder in that third fight? Any of those fighters suddenly appeared in the ring vs Fury and took Wilder's place? I don't think Tyson Fury survives, they would of had the offensive accuracy to take him out in my opinion'.

And going a step further goodness only knows what fighters like Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, David Tua would of done to Tyson Fury in that fight 'Overall skill for skill, Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury III, was not a high level fight'.

If anybody objects to what I am stating about Tyson Fury 'You once again only have to look his fights vs both Francis Ngannou and Oleksandr Uysk. As great a fighter Tyson Fury is, innately he is a extremely clumsy fighter and there are always moments of complete technically calamity in his fights'.

Tyson Fury in that regard is very similar to Amir Khan 'Both fighters could box a supreme fight for 95% of the fight, but then sudden make technical mistakes and produce unforced errors that appear to be incredible novice'.

What does this information have to do with Deontay Wilder and his punching power? Everything really. Deontay Wilder if he was the most devastating power puncher in history, really should of at least had one genuine win beyond doubt vs a fighter like Tyson Fury. Fury is always going to give a offensive power puncher a chance of whacking him during a fight, historically that statement right there is a accurate description of Tyson Fury's career at top level.

And by the way Tyson Fury did not win the first Deontay Wilder fight 'If one fighter can claim the win in that fight most, it was Deontay Wilder. So as you can see Wilder nearly, with his power and determination alone was able to beat Tyson Fury'.

Interestingly enough Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, if you really analysed all of their three fights 'You will become aware that, there tribology was awesome in terms of passion, competition and brutality. But it did reveal the level skill for skill of both fighters'.

Tyson Fury's inside game is overrated, both in terms of sophistication and effectiveness.

Deontay Wilder's overall offense is overrated, both in terms of variation of destructiveness.

That is one of the technical conclusions, which becomes apparent from watching the three Deonaty Wilder vs Tyson Fury fights.

Note: Deontay Wilder with his best single punch, was a serious power puncher. But overall his offensive capabilities where overrated, I have seen certain people within the boxing community simply ask the question? How many top level fighters did Deontay Wilder knock out? Not many. Wladimir Kiltschko was overall a more proven power puncher at World and Elite level than Deontay Wilder.

So to conclude: Deontay Wilder with his best punch, was a dangerous power puncher. But overall his offensive capabilities was overrated, Wilder was nowhere near destructive as the media claimed, and I don't think he was the same category of threat as a peak Mike Tyson or David Tua' etc.

Deontay Wilder negated his lack of World to Elite level skills, with his power, courage, determination and agression. Wilder was fortunate that he appeared in the Heavyweight division within this modern era of boxing, because? During any other Heavyweight era, I believe Deontay Wilder would of found it extremely difficult be such a threat at top level for a long period of time etc.

[ilovemesomeboxing]

I'm honestly surprised at the poll results.

[Lance98]

Yes, his power is real. But his boxing ability is probably less than shavers. That's why wilder ko against top tens isn't good

So? This topic is about power.