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Did Deontay Wilder have elite ATG power or was his power overrated?

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  • #51
    Richard Towers who was 6'8" and sparred with EVERYBODY said his power was in a league of it's own

    “I’ve sparred with every heavyweight you could think of, except Joseph Parker. And I know when it comes to power, Deontay Wilder is in a league of his own," Towers said, as cited by The Sun.

    “Put it this way: He hits FOUR times harder than Vitali Klitschko, he hits FIVE times harder than Wladimir Klitschko, he hits SIX times harder than Anthony Joshua, and he hits EIGHT times harder than Tyson Fury,” he added.
    https://www.rt.com/sport/437447-deon...ichard-towers/

    Obviously, the AJ "English Muffins" & PBC haters will take his current state as an opportunity to trash him every chance they get, but people who actually sparred with him & fought him say his power was much higher than anybody they fought, including David Haye.

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    • #52
      ATG Power Obviously

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
        Richard Towers who was 6'8" and sparred with EVERYBODY said his power was in a league of it's own



        https://www.rt.com/sport/437447-deon...ichard-towers/

        Obviously, the AJ "English Muffins" & PBC haters will take his current state as an opportunity to trash him every chance they get, but people who actually sparred with him & fought him say his power was much higher than anybody they fought, including David Haye.
        oh yeah that sounds very credible. 5 times harder than wlad? 6 times harder than joshua? thats obviously not true and is silly. this is all just part of his hype machine. this is another quote from towers

        "Me and Deontay are friends; we sparred in Sheffield, London, even my kitchen," added the Yorkshire born fighter. "We're very close"

        i bet malik scott would say wilder is the hardest puncher ever too even though he clearly took a dive. these are just yes men and friends of his saying things that they know wilder likes to hear. his record shows his power evaporated when faced with the better fighters now whether that was because he couldnt land it or because it was mostly hype doesnt really matter but if you only have a 25% ko ratio against top 10 foes you arent a huge puncher definitionally
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        • #54
          Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post
          ATG Power Obviously

          yeah obviously...



          ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


          ali-50% 18 out of 36
          ​louis-75% 24 out of 32
          liston-63% 7 out of 11
          patterson-35% 7 out of 20
          foreman-58% 7 out of 12
          frazier-38% 5 out of 13
          holmes-52% 12 out of 23
          ​marciano-80% 8 out of 10
          bowe-60% 3 out of 5
          lewis-53% 8 out of 15
          fury-43% 3 out of 7
          vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
          wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
          joshua-50% 5 out of 10
          tyson-53% 8 out of 15
          holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
          wilder-25% 2 out of 8

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          • #55
            Originally posted by daggum View Post

            oh yeah that sounds very credible. 5 times harder than wlad? 6 times harder than joshua? thats obviously not true and is silly. this is all just part of his hype machine. this is another quote from towers

            "Me and Deontay are friends; we sparred in Sheffield, London, even my kitchen," added the Yorkshire born fighter. "We're very close"

            i bet malik scott would say wilder is the hardest puncher ever too even though he clearly took a dive. these are just yes men and friends of his saying things that they know wilder likes to hear. his record shows his power evaporated when faced with the better fighters now whether that was because he couldnt land it or because it was mostly hype doesnt really matter but if you only have a 25% ko ratio against top 10 foes you arent a huge puncher definitionally
            Remember when Steward said Naseem punched harder than Lennox?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ilovemesomeboxing View Post

              Remember when Steward said Naseem punched harder than Lennox?
              i think what he meant was naseem punches harder than wilder!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by daggum View Post


                yeah obviously...



                ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


                ali-50% 18 out of 36
                ​louis-75% 24 out of 32
                liston-63% 7 out of 11
                patterson-35% 7 out of 20
                foreman-58% 7 out of 12
                frazier-38% 5 out of 13
                holmes-52% 12 out of 23
                ​marciano-80% 8 out of 10
                bowe-60% 3 out of 5
                lewis-53% 8 out of 15
                fury-43% 3 out of 7
                vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
                wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
                joshua-50% 5 out of 10
                tyson-53% 8 out of 15
                holyfield-30% 6 out of 20
                wilder-25% 2 out of 8
                Maybe wilder padded out his resume with bums for too long. So by time he stepped up to top 10 ranked fighters, he was in his 30s? Left it too long wilder

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                • #58
                  If he didn't have actual, bonafide, elite, all-time power - we would not know of him and he would have never gotten anywhere at all with his late start in the sport and his litany of flawed mechanics

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    Maybe wilder padded out his resume with bums for too long. So by time he stepped up to top 10 ranked fighters, he was in his 30s? Left it too long wilder
                    Maybe it's just easier to ko bums? The most likely explanation

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Mic_Rob View Post
                      If he didn't have actual, bonafide, elite, all-time power - we would not know of him and he would have never gotten anywhere at all with his late start in the sport and his litany of flawed mechanics
                      We know of him because he had a high powered promoter and a network backing him. We know of him because they wanted us to know him. He's basically an industry plant. He had the connections to get him an easy title shot and the connections with haymon and the pbc to keep matching him soft in his title defenses. He overstepped against fury and that was that.
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