Wilder is the Biggest SCAM in Boxing History

[Pac=Duran]

The amount of unranked fighters Wikder found in his first 30 fights was absolutely hilarious.

After the second Stiverne fight, why? Stiverne was unranked then too

[champion4ever]

Wilder was a very good fighter. The problem is he wasn’t allowed to leave American shores.

Had he fought in the UK. He would have had a much better run, success and resume’.

Also, the boys in the UK weren’t eager to come stateside in order to fight him either.

He was the WBC’s World heavyweight champion for 5 years and with over ten successful title defenses

Both Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker ducked him in his prime.

[champion4ever]

You do know that he was an over achiever who got a late start in the fight game right!?

He didn’t start fighting until he was 22 years old. He had only 38 amateurs fights.

However, he still made the 2008 Olympic team and won a Bronze medal. I think that was a remarkable feat by itself.

Lastly, Wilder never got in the fight game to become an all-time great, famous or a HOF. He only got in the fight game in order to feed his family.

[Willow The Wisp]

I don't respect anyone that's part of the problem, I can vocalize that if I want, I did it nicely, and without being abusive. At the end of the day, this is a boxing forum, not a knitting forum.

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I found that very disrespectful. I'm not doing everything in my power, I'm vocalizing the truth and it is the truth. I know how brutal this sport is, and it wasn't hard AT ALL for Wilder to be cherry-picked to his elevation. That's the problem I have. He was fed 38 bums in a row, nobody living in reality is dis*****g that.

On top of it, Wilder is a scum bag. You would figure someone gifted this life would be greatful, this is not the case here.

Bull. You're a troll, a racist and a boxing knowledge Lightweight.

[maguirre]

Calling him a scam is too harsh. He did look good fighting guys they put in front of him after the Stiverne fight. That's when he started earning an average of $1 mil per fight. ($2 mil in the Ortiz 1).

He begged for the Joshua fight after watching his fight with Klitschko. He got jealous about the event looking so festive, especially after the KO win, the pageantry-like atmosphere and all.

But then this clown Eddie Hearn started making huge money offers. Sort of like starting from a high bid, instead of low.

That's when Wilder and his team began their scam. They behaved, or actually believed the HW division in America is back based on Hearn's idiocy. That Wilder can do it on his own and become the next PPV queen of this era. The 3 stooges Espinoza, Winkel, Haymon wanted nothing to do with DAZN. Showtime made huge investments and overpaid Wilder only to realize they were deluded and Espinoza eventually had had enough of it and threw Wilder to Fox Sports to stop the bleeding...â

That's why it's never meant to happen. The toxicity was just too much to have a semblance of civil negotiations. Wilder couldn't have possibly fought on a DAZN card at that time, especially being so new and still not established. Haymon, Finkel and Espinoza would not have allowed it.

[Willow The Wisp]

You completed discredited your self-proclaimed expertise by placing Tyson Fury atop the list. Usyk has proven more in 4.5 years at HW than Fury has done in his entire career. Joseph Parker also has better wins than Wilder and Zhang (and cleanly beat both h2h). You're anything but a boxing expert no matter how much chest thumping you do.

Lol. Critics.

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder was a very good fighter. The problem is he wasn’t allowed to leave American shores.

Had he fought in the UK. He would have had a much better run, success and resume’.

Also, the boys in the UK weren’t eager to come stateside in order to fight him either.

He was the WBC’s World heavyweight champion for 5 years and with over ten successful title defenses

Both Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker ducked him in his prime.

Good post. Facts over Hate. I like it.

When Joshua came to New York he left without his "titles", and this board was no kinder to him than they're being to old man Wilder now.

[champion4ever]

Good post. Facts over Hate. I like it.

When Joshua came to New York he left without his "titles", and this board was no kinder to him than they're being to old man Wilder now.

Yes, indeed! Thanks!

[BKM-]

These silly boxing fans. There is no middle ground with them. Always one side of the extreme.

[rickJen]

That's why it's never meant to happen. The toxicity was just too much to have a semblance of civil negotiations. Wilder couldn't have possibly fought on a DAZN card at that time, especially being so new and still not established. Haymon, Finkel and Espinoza would not have allowed it.

True. Espinoza despises Hearn even to this day. He and Shirley would not have accepted anything coming from Hearn.
Yet it was Eddie Hearn's huge money offers that made them think they have Mike Tyson 2 in their hands and HW in America is back.
And that their boy Wilder would make more than whatever DAZN/Hearn offered. They didn't need them.