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  • #21
    Originally posted by QballLobo View Post

    Disagree. Wilder definitely had a bomb in his right hand. The difference is before he got KO’d by Fury he had no hesitation and put everything he had into it and changed fights.

    After the Fury KO you could see he wasn’t the same. Didn’t have that confidence and was always worried about getting his back. That slight hesitation is why power punchers like Wilder and Tyson don’t age well after they get dropped.
    I don't NEED you to agree though, the facts are he doesn't have power against top fighters...that is a constant. This has been proven. You got bamboozled.

    Stop wasting your time and most important OUR time with this nonsense. Put your time into something you can do and cherish lol.

    For instance ===>


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    • #22
      Originally posted by War Room View Post

      If you like Boca Burgers and not the real thing, shame on you. If you like men in dresses instead of women, again - shame on you. Boxing fans should like the REAL thing, not some fakery.

      If you're a fan of violence, maybe bum fights or mma is your thing. Boxing fans are here for one reason only: the Sweet Science.
      I know nothing about horse racing so I never bet on horses. But I like watching the Grand National because i I find it exciting to watch. Should I be ashamed of that?

      Boxing needs casual fans. Without casuals boxing would be an obscure minority sport and the quality of the fighters who compete in it would be far lower.

      A percentage of casuals who keep watch boxing purely for the violence and visceral excitement eventually turn into knowledgeable hard core fans. Others can watch it for a lifetime and still have no idea what they are looking at. That's life.
      Last edited by kafkod; 06-02-2024, 09:22 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
        I've given Wilder a lot of stick over the years, but he wasn't as bad as I thought he was initially.

        He beat a number of top 10 guys, Stiverne and Ortiz are solid wins, and he has a draw with Fury and truth be told another ref might've counted Fury out which would change all perceptions.

        Wilder is not great, but he's not terrible either. Even as a hater, I tuned in most times because you knew bombs would drop.
        You should have listened to yourself...trust yout gut as they say.

        Wilder sucks, always has. Bombs against bums might excite you, not I...​

        Originally posted by Gladiator18 View Post
        Nah, people will downplay wilder now just cause of his last performances but he’s clearly shot, look how terrified he is of even throwing the right hand. The fury trilogy destroyed him
        Uh yah, I've said it for years. Wilder is the biggest scam in boxing history. You simply have no clue what you're looking at. Some are ealisy tricked, unfortunate but true.

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        • #24
          Should have listened to me, I told you he was nothing but a bum killer for years.

          And he don’t even punch that hard, it’s easy to flatten bums. Who’s he knocked out that actually could take a shot? Nobody.

          One of the worst HW champs in history for sure.

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          • #25
            No, Wilder lost to guys who outweighed him by 30-70 lbs, he just had bad management that's all.

            This biggest scam in boxing right now is Ryan Garcia.

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            • #26
              He can definitely crack but hes always been one dimensional and defensively vulnerable and spent a loooong time padding his record beating B, C, D level opponents. When your best wins in a 16 year almost 50 fight pro career are old Ortiz and Stiverne its pretty telling.

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              • #27
                You're right. That makes Fury a bum for going 3 fights with him and nearly losing the first one, lol. Usyk finally exposed Fury for what he was, a FRAUD the entire time! Beating that 41 year old Klitschko and claiming to be the greatest heavyweight of this era. PAAAALEEEEAAASE.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by War Room View Post

                  You should have listened to yourself...trust yout gut as they say.

                  Wilder sucks, always has. Bombs against bums might excite you, not I...​
                  Well put it this way, I didn't think he'd beat Stiverne and Ortiz so my opinion of him was pretty low initially. The other thing is, the "scam" as you put it would've ended a lot earlier if it was not for drug cheat Povetkin, Wilder signed to fight him in Moscow. Fury was supposed to end it, but Wilder hung in there, and nearly won.

                  He did all right with his limited ability, he is being humbled now and that's good.
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 06-02-2024, 10:05 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by tonysoprano View Post
                    Should have listened to me, I told you he was nothing but a bum killer for years.

                    And he don’t even punch that hard, it’s easy to flatten bums. Who’s he knocked out that actually could take a shot? Nobody.

                    One of the worst HW champs in history for sure.
                    Amen.

                    Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
                    No, Wilder lost to guys who outweighed him by 30-70 lbs, he just had bad management that's all.

                    This biggest scam in boxing right now is Ryan Garcia.
                    Thats HW boxing baby. You're not always gonna be a big guy, plenty of smaller guys rose to the top. You're invalid and easily tricked.

                    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                    You're right. That makes Fury a bum for going 3 fights with him and nearly losing the first one, lol. Usyk finally exposed Fury for what he was, a FRAUD the entire time! Beating that 41 year old Klitschko and claiming to be the greatest heavyweight of this era. PAAAALEEEEAAASE.
                    I don't think ne nearly lost the first one at all, I thought he clearly won. I gave Wilder very few rounds, solid. Those other fights only happened because of the money, facts.

                    I thought Fury beat Usyk by 1 round. You people DKSAB and definitely don't know how to score.

                    Vlad at 41 was on a ~22 fight win streak dominating all the young guys, he was well preserved more than most fighters that ever fought at that age. Fury clowned him, Vlad won like 2 rounds. Beat it kid, you've been hoodwinked time and time again.

                    I mean look at your AV rofl, Pacman - another guy who enjoyed a cherry-picked career of fighters at their weakest and had to have a crushing loss within their last 3 fights before Trampler would sign-off. Your entire life has been drowned in smoke & mirrors. Be gone pest lol.
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                    • #30
                      I don't like Wilder but I respect him because of the heart he showed firstly in taking the third Fury fight but also taking the beating for so long. No doubt he is a warrior.

                      But that's it. His speed and power are overrated. He got lucky against 50yr old Ortiz who outboxed him over two fights and is crap anyway. And against any other good fighter he has fallen short. He cannot knock out any real top 10 guys.

                      He ducked Klitschko, Joshua, Ruiz, Whyte, Chisora and Usyk.

                      He forged a career by cherry picking until it went wrong against Fury and then when he had no other option at the end of his career he took paydays against Parker and Zhang and lost. Zhang btw is 41 years old.

                      Those are the facts.
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