Wilder koed everyone he ever fought. So if like fury, Parker and Zhang they are part of a select few who didn't get koed. 43 bums, so at least those 3 are above bum level
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostWilder koed everyone he ever fought. So if like fury, Parker and Zhang they are part of a select few who didn't get koed. 43 bums, so at least those 3 are above bum level
He never quit, and always trained to do his best, and never got poped for PEDs.
1. Muhammad Ali, USA
2. Larry Holmes, USA
3. George Foreman, USA
4. Lennox Lewis, England
5. Sonny Liston, USA
6. Mike Tyson, USA
7. Joe Frazier, USA
8. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
9. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
10. Tyson Fury, England
11. Ken Norton, USA
12. Evander Holyfield, USA
13. Anthony Joshua, England
14. Ridck. Bowe, USA
15. Deontay Wilder, USA
16. Cleveland Williams, USA
17. Jerry Quarry, USA
18. Ron Lyle, USA
19. Vitali Klitschko, Ukraine
20. Zora Folley, USA
21. Gerry Cooney, USA
22. Earnie Shavers, USA
23. Jimmy Ellis, USA
24. Floyd Patterson, USA
25. Jimmy Young, USA
26. Eddie Machen, USA
27. Ike Ibeabuchi, Nigeria
28. Tim Witherspoon, USA
29. George Chuvalo, Canada
30. Gerrie Coetzee, South Africa
31. Andrew Golota, Poland
32. Joseph Parker, New Zealand
33. Michael Dokes, USA
34. David Tua, New Zealand
35. Alexander Povetkin, Russia
36. Mike Weaver, USA
37. Frank Bruno, England
38. Tommy Morrison, USA
39. Michael Spinks, USA
40. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA
41. Zeili Zhang, China
42. Joe Bugner, England
43. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
44. Trevor Berbick, Jamaica
45. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
46. Tony Tucker, USA
47. Chris Byrd, USA
48. Ray Mercer, USA
49. Pinklon Thomas, USA
50. Oliver McCall, USA
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
He did alright, regardless of fans who don't support his success. His legacy is that of an IBHOF class fighter (I vote), one of history's premier punchers, 10 successful WBC title defences (more than any of his peers), and a fighter who, when there were 3 longstanding champions claiming a title, sought to unify against one of the other two, fighting an historic draw (Fury 1), while the 3rd claimant (Joshua) faltered by being KO'd, falling out of the top 3 for several years with repeated losses.
He never quit, and always trained to do his best, and never got poped for PEDs.
1. Muhammad Ali, USA
2. Larry Holmes, USA
3. George Foreman, USA
4. Lennox Lewis, England
5. Sonny Liston, USA
6. Mike Tyson, USA
7. Joe Frazier, USA
8. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
9. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
10. Tyson Fury, England
11. Ken Norton, USA
12. Evander Holyfield, USA
13. Anthony Joshua, England
14. Ridck. Bowe, USA
15. Deontay Wilder, USA
16. Cleveland Williams, USA
17. Jerry Quarry, USA
18. Ron Lyle, USA
19. Vitali Klitschko, Ukraine
20. Zora Folley, USA
21. Gerry Cooney, USA
22. Earnie Shavers, USA
23. Jimmy Ellis, USA
24. Floyd Patterson, USA
25. Jimmy Young, USA
26. Eddie Machen, USA
27. Ike Ibeabuchi, Nigeria
28. Tim Witherspoon, USA
29. George Chuvalo, Canada
30. Gerrie Coetzee, South Africa
31. Andrew Golota, Poland
32. Joseph Parker, New Zealand
33. Michael Dokes, USA
34. David Tua, New Zealand
35. Alexander Povetkin, Russia
36. Mike Weaver, USA
37. Frank Bruno, England
38. Tommy Morrison, USA
39. Michael Spinks, USA
40. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA
41. Zeili Zhang, China
42. Joe Bugner, England
43. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
44. Trevor Berbick, Jamaica
45. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
46. Tony Tucker, USA
47. Chris Byrd, USA
48. Ray Mercer, USA
49. Pinklon Thomas, USA
50. Oliver McCall, USA
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostWilder was a very good fighter. The problem is he wasn’t allowed to leave American shores.
Had he fought in the UK. He would have had a much better run, success and resume’.
Also, the boys in the UK weren’t eager to come stateside in order to fight him either.
He was the WBC’s World heavyweight champion for 5 years and with over ten successful title defenses
Both Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker ducked him in his prime.
also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilderLast edited by daggum; 06-07-2024, 02:01 PM.BoxOfficer likes this.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Yes, however good anyone thinks wilder victims were. Wilder has only ever lost to 3 very good fighters.BoxOfficer likes this.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Yes, however good anyone thinks wilder victims were. Wilder has only ever lost to 3 very good fighters.
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
andy ruiz has only lost to parker and joshua. hes an all time great too. oh wait he actually has a much better resume than wilder with wins over joshua and ortiz and a debatable loss to parker. wilder has ortiz...oh and stiverne. so many all time greats in this era! guess who is also an all time great? joe joyce. hes only lost to 1 very good fighter. the all time greats keep coming! wait a second joyce has a better resume than wilder as well with wins over parker and dubois. jeez the greatness is everywhere! how many more fighters can we find that eclipse the great wilder? hint: a lot
Wilder s resume is 2nd best to many, but one saving grace is he not lost to any bums. Although in his loss to Parker and Zhang he did awfully whilst losing, he won't be proud of that
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
wasnt allowed to leave? or didnt want to because he was scared and happy to fight bums. wilder ducked joshua. thats is crystal clear. why make up things? they literally offered him 12 million dollars when he was making 2 million. then they offered him 100 million later. let me guess he wasnt allowed to take that great deal. parker did not duck him either. wilder said he wanted to fight parker but did he make any offers....nope! parker went on to fight joshua for a huge payday, did wilder ever attempt to fight parker after that? nope! if you didnt know by now guys like wilder use the media to promote themselves and to try and shape the narrative but the facts are the facts and he didnt try to fight these guys. to duck someone you actually have to reach out and try to fight them and then they have to turn you down in favor of worse fights for less money aka what wilder did when he ducked joshua, without any evidence of a duck you cant just say a duck happened based on the fighters public statements
also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilder
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
wasnt allowed to leave? or didnt want to because he was scared and happy to fight bums. wilder ducked joshua. thats is crystal clear. why make up things? they literally offered him 12 million dollars when he was making 2 million. then they offered him 100 million later. let me guess he wasnt allowed to take that great deal. parker did not duck him either. wilder said he wanted to fight parker but did he make any offers....nope! parker went on to fight joshua for a huge payday, did wilder ever attempt to fight parker after that? nope! if you didnt know by now guys like wilder use the media to promote themselves and to try and shape the narrative but the facts are the facts and he didnt try to fight these guys. to duck someone you actually have to reach out and try to fight them and then they have to turn you down in favor of worse fights for less money aka what wilder did when he ducked joshua, without any evidence of a duck you cant just say a duck happened based on the fighters public statements
also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilder
Just look at Wilder's history of fighting the absolute lowest tier comp before he lost to a cherry pick gone wrong. Then look at Joshua's record
the evidence is damning. Wilder is and was a fraud.BoxOfficer likes this.
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Originally posted by Soltador de Bocadillo
Oh that's why Wilder can't get a win to save his career. It's because Parker and Zhang are the worst tier. Got you. Not ****** at all.
Joshua's can crushing campaign really puts the names Wilder's been fighting to shame.
****ing dumb as ****.
Duhapas 2, Luis Ortiz 3, finish his career vs Ruiz
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