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  • Wilder koed everyone he ever fought. So if like fury, Parker and Zhang they are part of a select few who didn't get koed. 43 bums, so at least those 3 are above bum level
    Last edited by hugh grant; 06-07-2024, 08:24 AM.

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      Wilder koed everyone he ever fought. So if like fury, Parker and Zhang they are part of a select few who didn't get koed. 43 bums, so at least those 3 are above bum level
      He did alright, regardless of fans who don't support his success. His legacy is that of an IBHOF class fighter (I vote), one of history's premier punchers, 10 successful WBC title defences (more than any of his peers), and a fighter who, when there were 3 longstanding champions claiming a title, sought to unify against one of the other two, fighting an historic draw (Fury 1), while the 3rd claimant (Joshua) faltered by being KO'd, falling out of the top 3 for several years with repeated losses.
      He never quit, and always trained to do his best, and never got poped for PEDs.


      1. Muhammad Ali, USA
      2. Larry Holmes, USA
      3. George Foreman, USA
      4. Lennox Lewis, England
      5. Sonny Liston, USA
      6. Mike Tyson, USA
      7. Joe Frazier, USA
      8. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
      9. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
      10. Tyson Fury, England
      11. Ken Norton, USA
      12. Evander Holyfield, USA
      13. Anthony Joshua, England
      14. Ridck. Bowe, USA
      15. Deontay Wilder, USA
      16. Cleveland Williams, USA
      17. Jerry Quarry, USA
      18. Ron Lyle, USA
      19. Vitali Klitschko, Ukraine
      20. Zora Folley, USA
      21. Gerry Cooney, USA
      22. Earnie Shavers, USA
      23. Jimmy Ellis, USA
      24. Floyd Patterson, USA
      25. Jimmy Young, USA
      26. Eddie Machen, USA
      27. Ike Ibeabuchi, Nigeria
      28. Tim Witherspoon, USA
      29. George Chuvalo, Canada
      30. Gerrie Coetzee, South Africa
      31. Andrew Golota, Poland
      32. Joseph Parker, New Zealand
      33. Michael Dokes, USA
      34. David Tua, New Zealand
      35. Alexander Povetkin, Russia
      36. Mike Weaver, USA
      37. Frank Bruno, England
      38. Tommy Morrison, USA
      39. Michael Spinks, USA
      40. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA
      41. Zeili Zhang, China
      42. Joe Bugner, England
      43. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
      44. Trevor Berbick, Jamaica
      45. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
      46. Tony Tucker, USA
      47. Chris Byrd, USA
      48. Ray Mercer, USA
      49. Pinklon Thomas, USA
      50. Oliver McCall, USA

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      • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        He did alright, regardless of fans who don't support his success. His legacy is that of an IBHOF class fighter (I vote), one of history's premier punchers, 10 successful WBC title defences (more than any of his peers), and a fighter who, when there were 3 longstanding champions claiming a title, sought to unify against one of the other two, fighting an historic draw (Fury 1), while the 3rd claimant (Joshua) faltered by being KO'd, falling out of the top 3 for several years with repeated losses.
        He never quit, and always trained to do his best, and never got poped for PEDs.


        1. Muhammad Ali, USA
        2. Larry Holmes, USA
        3. George Foreman, USA
        4. Lennox Lewis, England
        5. Sonny Liston, USA
        6. Mike Tyson, USA
        7. Joe Frazier, USA
        8. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
        9. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
        10. Tyson Fury, England
        11. Ken Norton, USA
        12. Evander Holyfield, USA
        13. Anthony Joshua, England
        14. Ridck. Bowe, USA
        15. Deontay Wilder, USA
        16. Cleveland Williams, USA
        17. Jerry Quarry, USA
        18. Ron Lyle, USA
        19. Vitali Klitschko, Ukraine
        20. Zora Folley, USA
        21. Gerry Cooney, USA
        22. Earnie Shavers, USA
        23. Jimmy Ellis, USA
        24. Floyd Patterson, USA
        25. Jimmy Young, USA
        26. Eddie Machen, USA
        27. Ike Ibeabuchi, Nigeria
        28. Tim Witherspoon, USA
        29. George Chuvalo, Canada
        30. Gerrie Coetzee, South Africa
        31. Andrew Golota, Poland
        32. Joseph Parker, New Zealand
        33. Michael Dokes, USA
        34. David Tua, New Zealand
        35. Alexander Povetkin, Russia
        36. Mike Weaver, USA
        37. Frank Bruno, England
        38. Tommy Morrison, USA
        39. Michael Spinks, USA
        40. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA
        41. Zeili Zhang, China
        42. Joe Bugner, England
        43. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
        44. Trevor Berbick, Jamaica
        45. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
        46. Tony Tucker, USA
        47. Chris Byrd, USA
        48. Ray Mercer, USA
        49. Pinklon Thomas, USA
        50. Oliver McCall, USA
        Yes, however good anyone thinks wilder victims were. Wilder has only ever lost to 3 very good fighters.

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        • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          Wilder was a very good fighter. The problem is he wasn’t allowed to leave American shores.

          Had he fought in the UK. He would have had a much better run, success and resume’.

          Also, the boys in the UK weren’t eager to come stateside in order to fight him either.

          He was the WBC’s World heavyweight champion for 5 years and with over ten successful title defenses

          Both Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker ducked him in his prime.
          wasnt allowed to leave? or didnt want to because he was scared and happy to fight bums. wilder ducked joshua. thats is crystal clear. why make up things? they literally offered him 12 million dollars when he was making 2 million. then they offered him 100 million later. let me guess he wasnt allowed to take that great deal. parker did not duck him either. wilder said he wanted to fight parker but did he make any offers....nope! parker went on to fight joshua for a huge payday, did wilder ever attempt to fight parker after that? nope! if you didnt know by now guys like wilder use the media to promote themselves and to try and shape the narrative but the facts are the facts and he didnt try to fight these guys. to duck someone you actually have to reach out and try to fight them and then they have to turn you down in favor of worse fights for less money aka what wilder did when he ducked joshua, without any evidence of a duck you cant just say a duck happened based on the fighters public statements

          also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilder
          Last edited by daggum; 06-07-2024, 02:01 PM.
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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

            Yes, however good anyone thinks wilder victims were. Wilder has only ever lost to 3 very good fighters.
            andy ruiz has only lost to parker and joshua. hes an all time great too. oh wait he actually has a much better resume than wilder with wins over joshua and ortiz and a debatable loss to parker. wilder has ortiz...oh and stiverne. so many all time greats in this era! guess who is also an all time great? joe joyce. hes only lost to 1 very good fighter. the all time greats keep coming! wait a second joyce has a better resume than wilder as well with wins over parker and dubois. jeez the greatness is everywhere! how many more fighters can we find that eclipse the great wilder? hint: a lot
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            • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Yes, however good anyone thinks wilder victims were. Wilder has only ever lost to 3 very good fighters.
              2 of them when he was through. And the 3rd he knocked down many times & fought a draw with as well. We'll get to see Joshua, Parker, when they're shot, and that too is gonna be ugly. Usyk might be too smart to hang on too long, but he, like all Ukrainians, have bigger headaches.

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              • Originally posted by daggum View Post

                andy ruiz has only lost to parker and joshua. hes an all time great too. oh wait he actually has a much better resume than wilder with wins over joshua and ortiz and a debatable loss to parker. wilder has ortiz...oh and stiverne. so many all time greats in this era! guess who is also an all time great? joe joyce. hes only lost to 1 very good fighter. the all time greats keep coming! wait a second joyce has a better resume than wilder as well with wins over parker and dubois. jeez the greatness is everywhere! how many more fighters can we find that eclipse the great wilder? hint: a lot
                Yes, wilder could've done much better resume wise. His best performance is probably 1st fury fight. He got a *cough, cough* draw with fury and nearly had him sleep 10 seconds.
                Wilder s resume is 2nd best to many, but one saving grace is he not lost to any bums. Although in his loss to Parker and Zhang he did awfully whilst losing, he won't be proud of that

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                • Originally posted by daggum View Post

                  wasnt allowed to leave? or didnt want to because he was scared and happy to fight bums. wilder ducked joshua. thats is crystal clear. why make up things? they literally offered him 12 million dollars when he was making 2 million. then they offered him 100 million later. let me guess he wasnt allowed to take that great deal. parker did not duck him either. wilder said he wanted to fight parker but did he make any offers....nope! parker went on to fight joshua for a huge payday, did wilder ever attempt to fight parker after that? nope! if you didnt know by now guys like wilder use the media to promote themselves and to try and shape the narrative but the facts are the facts and he didnt try to fight these guys. to duck someone you actually have to reach out and try to fight them and then they have to turn you down in favor of worse fights for less money aka what wilder did when he ducked joshua, without any evidence of a duck you cant just say a duck happened based on the fighters public statements

                  also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilder
                  This guy's got the inside scoop on all those ducks, attended any meetings, on the conference calls, privy to everybody's deep thoughts. We are fortunate that you make the time to post here.

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                  • Originally posted by daggum View Post

                    wasnt allowed to leave? or didnt want to because he was scared and happy to fight bums. wilder ducked joshua. thats is crystal clear. why make up things? they literally offered him 12 million dollars when he was making 2 million. then they offered him 100 million later. let me guess he wasnt allowed to take that great deal. parker did not duck him either. wilder said he wanted to fight parker but did he make any offers....nope! parker went on to fight joshua for a huge payday, did wilder ever attempt to fight parker after that? nope! if you didnt know by now guys like wilder use the media to promote themselves and to try and shape the narrative but the facts are the facts and he didnt try to fight these guys. to duck someone you actually have to reach out and try to fight them and then they have to turn you down in favor of worse fights for less money aka what wilder did when he ducked joshua, without any evidence of a duck you cant just say a duck happened based on the fighters public statements

                    also i keep seeing people repeat this "he was champ for a long time" he had 10 defenses" but those are bad things because he fought utter bums! besides ortiz he didnt beat a single ranked opponent in those defenses. you are saying those things as if they are good but in reality it just shows how soft he was matched. if he had beaten 7-8 top 10 guys during that period then yeah great run but he beat 1! he was holdign the belt hostage refusing to step up. thats the truth. quality over quantity is what matters. quality over longevity. if you have both then you are ali. if you have neither you are wilder
                    Anyone that says they believe Joshua ducked Wilder is trolling or knows they're spewing bu ll**** at this stage.

                    Just look at Wilder's history of fighting the absolute lowest tier comp before he lost to a cherry pick gone wrong. Then look at Joshua's record

                    the evidence is damning. Wilder is and was a fraud.
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                    • Originally posted by Soltador de Bocadillo

                      Oh that's why Wilder can't get a win to save his career. It's because Parker and Zhang are the worst tier. Got you. Not ****** at all.

                      Joshua's can crushing campaign really puts the names Wilder's been fighting to shame.

                      ****ing dumb as ****.
                      If he got the robbery vs Firy in their first fight, Wilder would have continued his campaign of bum hunting.

                      Duhapas 2, Luis Ortiz 3, finish his career vs Ruiz

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