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I’m pretty confident Fury will beat Usyk.

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  • baroidi
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    Uysk has a glass body and I don't think the ref will save him against Fury. Fury can be knocked down, but he'll get back up and fight harder (that was what impressed me most with his fights with Wilder), only question is Fury's mindset, if he's totally focused on this fight, he'll win.

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    It also helped that Loma injured his shoulder and was arrogant enough to think he could win with only one arm, and not even the lead. He didn't throw that swivel jab he loves for like 6 rounds. When you give away 7 rounds, all your opponent has to do is make it to the final bell to win.
    Yeah, there was that too.

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

    Chisora had 11 losses and was shot and Usyk won by 1 round on two cards. Even his manager thought it he only won by a round.

    he definitely struggled at times with the physicality of Del Boy but was fresh and good enough to get past him.

    Something we haven't seen from Usyk is how he can fight against someone with a massive reach advantage that actually knows how to use it. so that will be interesting. we already know from the Del fight that he not really comfortable with a big physical heavyweight getting on top of him, which
    he didn't have to encounter again with Joshua or Dubois they don't know how to do that. But how about very long range? this will be the first opponent with the huge reach advantage that understands how to use it.

    We already know there's no way he can do anything with Fury if Fury gets that close range with him if he was struggling with Chisoras physicality. We've seen Fury bullying Chisora.

    That's why I say Usyk only really wins this fight if its fought at mid range, but why would Fury allow that when he has huge advantages at long range or close up?
    Chisora was past his best when he fought Usyk, but he wasn't shot. He trained hard for it and came in with a good game plan, which worked pretty well until he started slowing down.

    You have to factor in - Chisora was massively heavier but shorter than Usyk, short enough to come in low under Usyk's punches. And throwing those wide hooks of his, which is just his usual style, he was cutting off Usyk's escape rout to the sides. There was no way taller guys like AJ and DD were going to come in under Usyk's punches with wide hooks like that, and Fury isn't doing it either.

    Also, Usyk has grown into HW since then. He is bigger, stronger and acclimatised to the extra size and strength of HW opponents, compared to the guys he was fighting at CW.
    Last edited by kafkod; 05-17-2024, 10:40 AM.

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  • Haka
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    Another thing is that Usyk has never been in serious trouble in any fight whatsoever so he potentially could switch it up another level.

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
    We're going to see a lot more damage this time!
    That's very possible. But whose face is the damage going to be on?

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by denium View Post

    If we're all being honest here, If he goes to the cards and it's a close fight, Fury will 100% get the nod.

    I've got a feeling that Usyk knows this, hence him bulking up, i think he's looking for a stoppage.

    Turki wants Fury vs AJ
    To me, Usyk looks around the same size as he's been for all his HW fights since Chisora. I think he will definitely put his foot down and go for a stoppage though, if he sees any sign of Fury weakening. He must realise that he needs to either stop Fury or beat him so clearly that the judges wouldn't dare rob him.

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  • Haka
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    Originally posted by denium View Post

    Break it down then, how does Usyk beat Tyson Fury if Tyson keeps it long, and smothers and leans him whenever Usyk tries to close the distance? I'm genuinely curious to know.
    Fury is sloppy fighter, not able to 'keep it long' like in textbook style (like Bivol for ex.), he is going to get hit and feel that straight left hand to the chin. Usyk moves a lot better in this fight and he isn't that much smaller than Fury in terms of Heavyweights, 105 kg vs 120kg. Fury does not have the power to keep Usyk at bay, throws arms punches except when he decides to really sit on his punches. But when Fury is going to sit on his punches he is going to be a stationary target and Usyk will circle around and throw that hard left. Biggest problem that Fury has is his lack of power. Usyk is going to cook him.

    Leaning on Usyk means his chin is going to get close to Usyk fists.

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  • HisExcellency
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    Originally posted by Mr Giggles
    I’m very confident Usyk wins. Fury can’t keep up with usyks workrate and his footwork will have fury bamboozled and puzzled. Fury will tire towards the end whereas Usyk will just keep going
    This is EXACTLY how I predict the fight will go unless Fury manages to stop Usyk (potentially with a body shot). There's just no way Fury can outbox Usyk over 12 rounds and win on points (unless he gets another crooked scorecard like the Ngannou fight).

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  • automaton89
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    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

    Chisora had 11 losses and was shot and Usyk won by 1 round on two cards. Even his manager thought it he only won by a round.

    he definitely struggled at times with the physicality of Del Boy but was fresh and good enough to get past him.

    Something we haven't seen from Usyk is how he can fight against someone with a massive reach advantage that actually knows how to use it. so that will be interesting. we already know from the Del fight that he not really comfortable with a big physical heavyweight getting on top of him, which
    he didn't have to encounter again with Joshua or Dubois they don't know how to do that. But how about very long range? this will be the first opponent with the huge reach advantage that understands how to use it.

    We already know there's no way he can do anything with Fury if Fury gets that close range with him if he was struggling with Chisoras physicality. We've seen Fury bullying Chisora.

    That's why I say Usyk only really wins this fight if its fought at mid range, but why would Fury allow that when he has huge advantages at long range or close up?
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    The only way I see Fury winning is with the jab. He"s not a great technical fighter. He should stick and move

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    Originally posted by kafkod View Post



    The difference between Fury/Usyk and Teo/Loma is that Teo hits hard enough to intimidate a smaller guy like Loma and make him cautious about getting close enough to land his own shots. Teo's game plan of pivoting with Loma, plus that intimidating power, is what won the fight for him.

    Imo, Fury doesn't have the kind of power to intimidate Usyk. Not with fast punches thrown on the move, at any rate.
    It also helped that Loma injured his shoulder and was arrogant enough to think he could win with only one arm, and not even the lead. He didn't throw that swivel jab he loves for like 6 rounds. When you give away 7 rounds, all your opponent has to do is make it to the final bell to win.

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