Beterbiev is on another level not seen often throughout history.

[STREET CLEANER]

Beterbiev is skilled and powerful. He has more skills than his KOes indicate. The last fight he looked really good but that was a tiny ring and would had liked more to see it in a normal size ring where he had to deal with a fighter that had power, more reach/height with a good jab.

[IronDanHamza]

Ngannou visits Africa frequently, yes. USADA isn’t sending testers there to meet the 24/7/365 requirement, since they have no jurisdiction outside the US.

Francis Ngannou’s Visit to Cote d’Ivoire: MMA Promotion and Potential Heavyweight Fight in Africa
https://bnnbreaking.com/sports/franc...ght-in-africa/

Recently, the Marines at the embassy in Cameroon got a big surprise. UFC Heavyweight Champion Francis Ngannou stopped in for a visit.
https://americangrit.com/post/ufc-he...es-in-cameroon

Cameroon: Warm village homecoming for UFC champion Francis Ngannou
https://www.africanews.com/2021/05/0...ancis-ngannou/

You've listed 3 examples there. 3 is not frequent. He lives in Las Veags and doesn't leave often.

Mayweather on the other hand travels a lot. A whole lot more than Ngannou. Why the double standard?

If leaving Amercia disqualifies you from the "likely clean" field then how can Floyd be likely clean?

Do you have an example of him visiting Africa during a training camp? Since that is the only relevant time anyway since Floyd only got tested during training camp.

With Floyd there were no reports of anything odd found in test results by USADA. With Beterbiev there were atypical findings of elevated HGH and testosterone levels. That’s the difference between those two situations and my reasoning for that.

What's the relevance? Su****ious behavior is what were talking about here. They have both displayed it.

You've deemed Floyd's behavior as not su****ious because USADA said so.

Yet, the head of VADA deemed Beterbeiv's behavior not only not su****ious but in fact common. Do you not take the head of VADA's word for it, but do so with USADA? Why? Are you saying VADA are corrupt?

You can't have it both ways. You either take the companies word for it in regards to su****ion or you don't.

So which one is it? It's either null and void on Floyd's part or Beterbeiv is likely clean due to the same reasoning.

[ShoulderRoll]

You've listed 3 examples there. 3 is not frequent. He lives in Las Veags and doesn't leave often.

Mayweather on the other hand travels a lot. A whole lot more than Ngannou. Why the double standard?

If leaving Amercia disqualifies you from the "likely clean" field then Floyd can be likely clean?

Do you have an example of him visiting Africa during a training camp? Since that is the only relevant time anyway since Floyd only got tested during training camp.



What's the relevance? Su****ious behavior is what were talking about here. They have both displayed it.

You've deemed Floyd's behavior as not su****ious because USADA said so.

Yet, the head of VADA deemed Beterbeiv's behavior not only not su****ious but in fact common. Do you not take the head of VADA's word for it, but do so with USADA? Why? Are you saying VADA are corrupt?

You can't have it both ways. You either take the companies word for it in regards to su****ion or you don't.

So which one is it? It's either null and void on Floyd's part or Beterbeiv is likely clean due to the same reasoning.

I just listed a few examples I could find with a quick Google search, from different years. There are more, and Ngannou also travels to other places outside the US besides Africa. Interestingly he is even thinking of moving his training camp for Anthony Joshua to Saudi Arabia.

Leaving America disqualifies you from claiming true 24/7/355 USADA testing.

I deemed Floyd’s behavior as not su****ious because USADA approved a TUE for him and testing didn’t turn up any odd measurements. Whereas VADA testing turned up atypical levels of HGH and testosterone in Beterbiev.

[Haka]

He really can't. Bivol actually has feet, unlike the others he's fought. Smith and Gvodzyk had molasses feet in comparison, and Bivol is the best in the sport about ring awareness. He'll never "get in range" if he's not putting his own jab out there. Bivol has proven fight after fight that he's got the ability to just cruise scoring points while someone tries to walk him down. If Beterbiev does as you suggest, he'll never get the opportunity to open up and create offense to slow Bivol down, and Bivol will cruise in first gear to a shutout.

Fortunately Beterbiev isn't likely to be that ******. He knows the in-and-out Soviet style that Bivol uses. But he absolutely can't fight the way he did against Smith. Then it will just look like the Canelo fight. It's a good thing you're not his coach.

On paper it is easy to come to such conclusions. This is real life, remember this comment after the fight (if it ever takes place). It is going to be an easy night for Beterbiev.

[IronDanHamza]

I just listed a few examples I could find with a quick Google search, from different years. There are more, and Ngannou also travels to other places outside the US besides Africa. Interestingly he is even thinking of moving his training camp for Anthony Joshua to Saudi Arabia.

So you don't have evidence that he leaves America frequently. Just 3 at the moment. So that's established.

Leaving America disqualifies you from claiming true 24/7/355 USADA testing.

Why are we talking about 24/7 365 testing? Floyd never did that once. Is Floyd not likely clean because he didn't do 24/7 365 testing?

How many times did Ngannou leave America during a training camp? Do you have examples?

And who travels more outside of America more, Floyd, or Ngannou?

I deemed Floyd’s behavior as not su****ious because USADA approved a TUE for him and testing didn’t turn up any odd measurements. Whereas VADA testing turned up atypical levels of HGH and testosterone in Beterbiev.

No, no. Let's not backtrack now.

You said;

"He did nothing wrong according to them, hence that is not su****ious unless you think USADA is corrupt?"

Yet, Beterbiev did nothing wrong according to VADA, hence that is not su****ious, unless you think VADA is corrupt?

Are you saying that VADA are corrupt?

It's one or the other mate, you need to make a decision. Either the testing company are the authority on su****ion or they're not.

I've told you many times you need to chose your words wisely.

USADA said Floyd isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

VADA said Beterbiev isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

That is the only position you can take if that's your stance on Floyd and USADA.

So are you going to retract your statement that Beterbeiv is su****ious and is indeed likely clean like you do Floyd?

[MulaKO]

So you don't have evidence that he leaves America frequently. Just 3 at the moment. So that's established.





Why are we talking about 24/7 365 testing? Floyd never did that once. Is Floyd not likely clean because he didn't do 24/7 365 testing?

How many times did Ngannou leave America during a training camp? Do you have examples?

And who travels more outside of America more, Floyd, or Ngannou?



No, no. Let's not backtrack now.

You said;

"He did nothing wrong according to them, hence that is not su****ious unless you think USADA is corrupt?"

Yet, Beterbiev did nothing wrong according to VADA, hence that is not su****ious, unless you think VADA is corrupt?

Are you saying that VADA are corrupt?

It's one or the other mate, you need to make a decision. Either the testing company are the authority on su****ion or they're not.

I've told you many times you need to chose your words wisely.

USADA said Floyd isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

VADA said Beterbiev isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

That is the only position you can take if that's your stance on Floyd and USADA.

So are you going to retract your statement that Beterbeiv is su****ious and is indeed likely clean like you do Floyd?

Stop wasting your time
Canelo is clean according to him and the rest of the nuthuggers
But they all get on the blame train when someone who hasn’t tested positive
lmao

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So you don't have evidence that he leaves America frequently. Just 3 at the moment. So that's established.





Why are we talking about 24/7 365 testing? Floyd never did that once. Is Floyd not likely clean because he didn't do 24/7 365 testing?

How many times did Ngannou leave America during a training camp? Do you have examples?

And who travels more outside of America more, Floyd, or Ngannou?



No, no. Let's not backtrack now.

You said;

"He did nothing wrong according to them, hence that is not su****ious unless you think USADA is corrupt?"

Yet, Beterbiev did nothing wrong according to VADA, hence that is not su****ious, unless you think VADA is corrupt?

Are you saying that VADA are corrupt?

It's one or the other mate, you need to make a decision. Either the testing company are the authority on su****ion or they're not.

I've told you many times you need to chose your words wisely.

USADA said Floyd isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

VADA said Beterbiev isn't su****ious therefore he's not.

That is the only position you can take if that's your stance on Floyd and USADA.

So are you going to retract your statement that Beterbeiv is su****ious and is indeed likely clean like you do Floyd?

There are more examples of Ngannou visiting Africa at other times, as well as leaving the US to visit other countries. That qualifies as frequent. How long do you expect me to keep searching Google in order to list them all?

You’re the one that brought up 24/7/365 USADA testing in the first place but now you don’t want to talk about it. Ok.

USADA found nothing wrong with Floyd’s IV. And they found nothing atypical in his tests. Why do you want me to say that is su****ious, in the same vein that atypically high levels of HGH and testosterone are su****ious?

[IronDanHamza]

Stop wasting your time
Canelo is clean according to him and the rest of the nuthuggers
But they all get on the blame train when someone who hasn’t tested positive
lmao

Exposing hypocrisy and overt ******ity is never a waste of time.

[ShoulderRoll]

Stop wasting your time
Canelo is clean according to him and the rest of the nuthuggers
But they all get on the blame train when someone who hasn’t tested positive
lmao

Canelo hasn’t tested positive either, since the trace amounts of clenbuterol (amounts consistent with eating tainted meat) were found in his system. Amounts that are considered legal now that people understand more about the science.

And he has looked better than ever during a lot of that time.

[MulaKO]

Canelo hasn’t tested positive either, since the trace amounts of clenbuterol (amounts consistent with eating tainted meat) were found in his system. Amounts that are considered legal now that people understand more about the science.

And he has looked better than ever during a lot of that time.

So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander , right ?
So why the double standard when it comes to others ?
Is it hate cause it really comes off that way
Playing both sides of the fence just makes you look ignorant kind of like you having such a difficult time understanding what Dan is saying
Or are you playing possum ?