Why is Wilder still considered elite?

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Tell me... where are all the powerful opponents that Joshua has fought? As opposed to Wilder?

check the ring rankings from when wilder and joshua both became champ to now. lets just look at all the top 5 guys from 2015 till now

did wilder fight klit? no. joshua did

did wilder fight pulev? no. joshua did

did widler fight povetkin? no. joshua did

did wilder fight parker? no. joshua did

did wilder fight whyte? no. joshua did

did wilder fight ruiz? no. joshua did

did wilder fight usyk? no. joshua did

did wilder fight joyce? no. neither did

did wilder fight joshua? no. joshua cant fight himself?

did wilder fight ortiz? yes. joshua no(ortiz ducked)

did wilder fight fury? yes(fury was ranked 7 in the first fight)


facts are a very dangerous thing to some people i guess

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Did I not say I know you're too ****** to realize it? Didn't I preface my declaration with acknowledging your inability to follow?

Hot damn, and here we have it kids. Case in point.


That covered, I will play your ***gy game now and beat you at your own bull****:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...anked-fighters


Hmm



Interesting.



Are you trying to answer this thread titled " Why is Wilder still considered elite? " without them? What's the point in that?


Again, I know you're too ****ing ****** so I'll just tell you. Circles son. You might catch one or two of my counter-points and harp on those because you think you can make a point there, but everything you let go, slip by, shows again why I can't hardly see your little punk ass. Take your big ears and snaggle teeth and go drink some chinese tea, ain't **** all for you here but dismantling.

wait you are using wbc rankings? I JUST SAID YOU WOULD DO THAT LMFAO AND YOU STILL DID IT! OH MY GOD YOU GOT OWNED SON

even in your own thead you are getting owned and called out for using their corrupt rankings.

now lets post up the ring rankings shall we???

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wait you are using wbc rankings? I JUST SAID YOU WOULD DO THAT LMFAO AND YOU STILL DID IT! OH MY GOD YOU GOT OWNED SON

Read the first quote and then explain to me how on earth you feel you are the one in control of this conversation. How is it you feel like you predicted this when I said it in my opening post?

****ing dumb bro. Seriously, really ****ing dumb.

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Read the first quote and then explain to me how on earth you feel you are the one in control of this conversation. How is it you feel like you predicted this when I said it in my opening post?

****ing dumb bro. Seriously, really ****ing dumb.

you literally just got owned buddy. i said no one takes the wbc rankings seriously and you post up the frickin wbc rankings! unbelievable! everyone in your own thread is laughing at you and pointing out how ****** you are for using the wbc rankings. you cant see that? you must be a glutten for punishment. those rankings are trash. lets post up the ring rankings and see shall we?

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Bermane Stiverne was Ring rated #6 the year Wilder fought him. In fact, he was Ring rated #4, #2, #6, #7 during 2013-2016.
Chris Arreola was ring rated #7 and #9 2013, 2014. Dominic Breazeale was #9 in 2017, and #4 by WBC at the time of the fight. Heck, Helenius was #6 in 2013. And Ortiz was top 5 from 2013-2020, and #7 thereafter. Wilder was even ahead on the cards at the time of stoppage in their first fight.

Wilder was also contracted to fight Ring rated stalwart Povetkin, but Povetkin popped for PEDs.

He's actually fought 10 times against guys who have been Ring rated top 10, with a record of 8-2-1 with 7 KO's.

The people who come up short are the ones who couldn't even match Wilder's accomplishments in a weak division. In that same chunk of time, Tyson Fury only fought 5 times against Ring-rated opponents, 3 of whom were named Deontay Wilder. He got knocked down 4 times, and was on PED's at the time of his so-called best win, against Klitschko who had one of his worst performances, only throwing 231 punches across the 12 rounds. Fury also complained about the gloves, the ring canvas, and the hand wraps. AJ has fought better opponents, but also lost 3 of his fights, and was also unable to knockout several of those opponents, as well as failing to get knockouts even over opponents who weren't Ring-rated. Ruiz has also only fought 5 opponents (two of whom were named Anthony Joshua) who have ever ranked in RIng top 10, but lost twice in those 5, and failed to stop his opponents in the other 3.

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lets find all the guys wilder ko'd! oh wait just one who was in the top 10 just like i said. stiverne wasnt top 10 in the rematch btw i have that proof as well


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Bermane Stiverne was Ring rated #6 the year Wilder fought him. In fact, he was Ring rated #4, #2, #6, #7 during 2013-2016.
Chris Arreola was ring rated #7 and #9 2013, 2014. Dominic Breazeale was #9 in 2017, and #4 by WBC at the time of the fight. Heck, Helenius was #6 in 2013. And Ortiz was top 5 from 2013-2020, and #7 thereafter. Wilder was even ahead on the cards at the time of stoppage in their first fight.

Wilder was also contracted to fight Ring rated stalwart Povetkin, but Povetkin popped for PEDs.

He's actually fought 10 times against guys who have been Ring rated top 10, with a record of 8-2-1 with 7 KO's.

The people who come up short are the ones who couldn't even match Wilder's accomplishments in a weak division. In that same chunk of time, Tyson Fury only fought 5 times against Ring-rated opponents, 3 of whom were named Deontay Wilder. He got knocked down 4 times, and was on PED's at the time of his so-called best win, against Klitschko who had one of his worst performances, only throwing 231 punches across the 12 rounds. Fury also complained about the gloves, the ring canvas, and the hand wraps. AJ has fought better opponents, but also lost 3 of his fights, and was also unable to knockout several of those opponents, as well as failing to get knockouts even over opponents who weren't Ring-rated. Ruiz has also only fought 5 opponents (two of whom were named Anthony Joshua) who have ever ranked in RIng top 10, but lost twice in those 5, and failed to stop his opponents in the other 3.

you see this is why we dont just make up things and also if someone is ranked in 2013 and widler fights them in 2022 that doesnt count. i mean are you serious?

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hey guys check this one out https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...t-card--122106



Bermane Stiverne

Age: 39

Previous Title: WBC Heavyweight (2014-15)

Previous Titles: None

Height: 6’2

Weight: 254 ¾ lbs.

Hails from: Las Vegas, Nevada (Born in Haiti)

Record: 25-2-1, 21 KO, 1 KOBY

Record in Major Title Fights: 1-1, 1 KO

Rankings: Unrated



stiverne unranked just like i said. you see i can back up what i say cause i have the facts. you dont. im so so sorry about these beat downs

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wilder fought a guy who was ranked 9 years before they fought...to some people thats proof he fights good opponents lmao! thats proof he cherry picks old shot fighters is it not? he only beat 2 guys who were ranked at the time of the fight. thats what matters. not if some bum was ranked 9 fricking years before they fought.

whats his record against guys who were in the top 10 when they fought? its 3-3(clearly lost to fury 1st fight) and he has 2 ko's for a 33% ko ratio. please tell me how hes super man and the biggest puncher ever though

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Dominic Breazeale

Titles/Previous Titles: None

Age: 33

Height: 6’7

Weight: 255 ¼ lbs.

Stance: Orthodox

Hails from: Glendale, California

Record: 20-1, 18 KO, 1 KOBY

Press Rankings: Unrated


im so so sorry about all this