Why is Wilder still considered elite?

[daggum]

He’s has elite one shot KO power. He’s never been an elite boxer because he never had to be.

and that power is only effective against weak opponents, which is why he only fought weak opponents, his boxing wasnt good enough to beat the better guys so he didnt fight the better guys and fury was a cherry pick gone wrong since at the time he looked terrible and wasnt in shape(wilders words by the way) they thought wilder would wilt like ortiz but oops didnt work that way at all and now the ruse is over

[billeau2]

im singing a different tune? ortiz is still overrated is he not? looks like i was proven right there because his resume is terrible and hes lost to the best fighters he fought. not sure what you are even talking about because you arent making much sense.

wilder ducked joshua and 100 million dollars to fight guys he thought he could beat for much less. im sorry that hurts you but thats the truth. "most people in boxing" yeah you know what most people in boxing are thinking somehow...right. also it wouldnt even matter what "most people" think, it matters what wilder thinks and he didnt think he could beat joshua thats why he ducked him

No Ortiz is not "overated." He is actually a pretty good scalp and when you consider the number of title defenses Wilder has... You will figure it out, actually you probably won't lol.

[billeau2]

wilder fought nothing but bums for years and years so not sure what you are talking about "when he could get fights" he could always get fights he just didnt want to. he could get fights right now but he doesnt want to. its been almost 9 years since he won a belt and he's beaten 2 top 10 fighters. that doesnt sound overrated to you? dont act like he couldnt get fights, he was headlining cards on pbc with a lot of money to get opponents. they brought in bums on purpose cause they wanted to manufacture a "star" thats why his ko percentage goes from 100 percent when he fights unranked guys to 33 percent when he fights top 10 opponents.

The whole division is not fighting... fuul! Wilder is no different than Fury, or Joshua, who has Joshua beat lately? Whyte? lol? Helinius? who he went round after round with and Wilder put away in a round... You is a fuul!

[daggum]

I fail to see how this an argument that detracts from the post you quoted. Where is your counter point?

To clarify:
Marchegiano, great wizard and chronicler of the boxing, knower, cited, often called on to illuminate for the uncultured, says dumb****s like daggum refuse to acknowledge the rated fighter Wilder knocked out. Dumb as **** Daggum, knower of only her own opinion, called on to settle **** all nothing ever, respected by those who share her opinion exclusively, responds with but dey ain't legit top ten doe. I'll post Ring at you.


Read them quotes and tell me that **** ain't what just happened.



Daggy, I know you're slow so I will say this in a way you can not misunderstand; ya been spanked already and if I never respond again you simply ain't got it in you to drum up anything that changes our juxtaposition. I can just barely see you son.

you are the one that needs to prove your claim. the burden of proof is on you not me. you are the one that made the claim that he has knocked out more than 1 top 10 ranked fighter. i asked you to name the top 10 figthers wilder knocked out...you refused. you refused because listing guys like gerald washington, duhapas, eric molina, etc...would make you look silly since every one knows those guys arent good and no one credible had them in the top 10. did the ring have any of those guys in the top 10? the answer is no. the only guy they had in the top 10 was ortiz, hence he has knocked out 1 top 10 guy his entire career. i dont use the silly fraudulent wbc rankings because they purposefully rank bums so wilder gets easy fights. if thats what you are using you arent credible or a serious person and i will laugh at you(even more)

here is a summary for ya:

daggum: wilder has only ko'd 1 top 10 fighter

marchegiano: daggum here claiming he only KO'd one top ten, but that's not the truth and the dude made considerable money KO'ing top ten HWs

daggum: oh yeah name the top 10 fighters

marchegiano: .............

you are spanking me lol ok

[daggum]

The whole division is not fighting... fuul! Wilder is no different than Fury, or Joshua, who has Joshua beat lately? Whyte? lol? Helinius? who he went round after round with and Wilder put away in a round... You is a fuul!

lately? wilder has had 9 years buddy and he's only beaten 2 top 10 fighters. you are right nobody is fighting each other but that wasnt my point so not sure why are you trying to change the topic. wilder never fought anyone and still isnt. joshua is being a tard, fury is being a tard, wilder always was a tard

[billeau2]

and that power is only effective against weak opponents, which is why he only fought weak opponents, his boxing wasnt good enough to beat the better guys so he didnt fight the better guys and fury was a cherry pick gone wrong since at the time he looked terrible and wasnt in shape(wilders words by the way) they thought wilder would wilt like ortiz but oops didnt work that way at all and now the ruse is over

Tell me... where are all the powerful opponents that Joshua has fought? As opposed to Wilder?

[billeau2]

lately? wilder has had 9 years buddy and he's only beaten 2 top 10 fighters. you are right nobody is fighting each other but that wasnt my point so not sure why are you trying to change the topic. wilder never fought anyone and still isnt. joshua is being a tard, fury is being a tard, wilder always was a tard

Your a tard... You cannot hold one fighter to a standard that does not apply to all fighters. This is a weak division...period.

[daggum]

No Ortiz is not "overated." He is actually a pretty good scalp and when you consider the number of title defenses Wilder has... You will figure it out, actually you probably won't lol.

title defenses against unranked guys? no thanks those are useless. yes ortiz is overrated given his resume. hes lost against the 2 best fighters he fought although he fought well in both. his only notable win was against jennings, he almost got ko'd against ruiz and charles martin. i dont know im not seeing anything amazing there. guys like joyce and ruiz are well above ortiz in accomplishments but ortiz gets hyped up cause he lost to wilder? and wilder gets hyped up for losing to fury? bizarro world

[daggum]

Your a tard... You cannot hold one fighter to a standard that does not apply to all fighters. This is a weak division...period.

im literally applying the same standard to everyone and wilder comes up well short of everyone else. why are you mad at me for pointing that out though? did wilder fight good comp? no. thats on him. direct your anger towards him.

[Marchegiano]

you are the one that needs to prove your claim. the burden of proof is on you not me. you are the one that made the claim that he has knocked out more than 1 top 10 ranked fighter. i asked you to name the top 10 figthers wilder knocked out...you refused. you refused because listing guys like gerald washington, duhapas, eric molina, etc...would make you look silly since every one knows those guys arent good and no one credible had them in the top 10. did the ring have any of those guys in the top 10? the answer is no. the only guy they had in the top 10 was ortiz, hence he has knocked out 1 top 10 guy his entire career. i dont use the silly fraudulent wbc rankings because they purposefully rank bums so wilder gets easy fights. if thats what you are using you arent credible or a serious person and i will laugh at you(even more)

here is a summary for ya:

daggum: wilder has only ko'd 1 top 10 fighter

marchegiano: daggum here claiming he only KO'd one top ten, but that's not the truth and the dude made considerable money KO'ing top ten HWs

daggum: oh yeah name the top 10 fighters

marchegiano: .............

you are spanking me lol ok

Did I not say I know you're too ****** to realize it? Didn't I preface my declaration with acknowledging your inability to follow?

Hot damn, and here we have it kids. Case in point.


That covered, I will play your ***gy game now and beat you at your own bull****:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/856172-deontay-wilder-vs-top-ten-officially-ranked-fighters

Hmm

A lot of the Joshua fans are just blind nationalists, TBH and not boxing fans.

He's all they have, really.

Interesting.

you are using belt rankings? whats the point of that? gamboa is #2!

Are you trying to answer this thread titled " Why is Wilder still considered elite? " without them? What's the point in that?


Again, I know you're too ****ing ****** so I'll just tell you. Circles son. You might catch one or two of my counter-points and harp on those because you think you can make a point there, but everything you let go, slip by, shows again why I can't hardly see your little punk ass. Take your big ears and snaggle teeth and go drink some chinese tea, ain't **** all for you here but dismantling.