Why is Wilder still considered elite?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #1

    Why is Wilder still considered elite?

    He only beat Helenius in the last years.

    People talk about guys being overrated, but people like Joyce, Zhang, parker actually fight somebody. Wilder is considered elite because he was able to get KO`d by Fury twice? I guess Chisora is also elite than.

    It is very unfair to the other guys that casuals still consider Wilder being elite for...doing nothing.

    Lets see if Wilder beats Ruiz, Zhang, parker, Jared...somebody ranked. Than we can talk.

    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 09-26-2023, 03:20 PM.
  • daggum
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    was he ever elite though? his resume is pretty terrible. its been 8 years now and hes beaten 2 top 10 fighters.

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    • hugh grant
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      #3
      Nel o lost to bivol, and people treat Nell like piece of dirt, not a top pfp fighter now? Wilder is being treated kinder

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #4
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Nel o lost to bivol, and people treat Nell like piece of dirt, not a top pfp fighter now? Wilder is being treated kinder
        Canelo is elite. Wilder is glorified for doing nothing.

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        • Outwest Exp 355
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          #5
          He knocks people out and he’s good at what he does. What I don’t get is what’s with this obsession with anybody who is a fan of his? People like who they like. There’s no reason to cry about it.

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          • TelMex
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            #6
            Wilder beats everyone at HW but Fury by devastating right hand.

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            • daggum
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              #7
              Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
              He knocks people out and he’s good at what he does. What I don’t get is what’s with this obsession with anybody who is a fan of his? People like who they like. There’s no reason to cry about it.
              hes knocked out one fighter in the top 10 his entire career though. not impressive

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              • daggum
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                #8
                Originally posted by TelMex
                Wilder beats everyone at HW but Fury by devastating right hand.
                then why doesnt he fight anyone good and do it

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                • Toffee
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                  #9
                  He's only beaten one fighter of any note.

                  And he hasn't had any kind of credible win in 4 years.

                  He's tough to rank right now.
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                  • daggum
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Toffee
                    He's only beaten one fighter of any note.

                    And he hasn't had any kind of credible win in 4 years.

                    He's tough to rank right now.
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                    you arent factoring in all his losses to fury though!

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