Why is Wilder still considered elite?

[MulaKO]

He only beat Helenius in the last years.

People talk about guys being overrated, but people like Joyce, Zhang, parker actually fight somebody. Wilder is considered elite because he was able to get KO`d by Fury twice? I guess Chisora is also elite than.

It is very unfair to the other guys that casuals still consider Wilder being elite for...doing nothing.

Lets see if Wilder beats Ruiz, Zhang, parker, Jared...somebody ranked. Than we can talk.

Who exactly finds him elite ?

[hugh grant]

its unlikely a guy who spent his entire career not fighting tough opponents on purpose is suddenly going to do that, its possible he has a crisis of conscious, but this is a guy who fights mentally challenged people and a guy who says mind bobblin. hes also very easily manipulated as we saw him blunder the joshua situation and lost tens of millions of dollars in the process only to lose in humiliating fashion instead

Yes, it's unlikely wilder feels need to prove his critics wrong. But we can only hope and wish wilder had a desire to make up and amends for his loss to fury by fighting and beating someone half decent.
Zhang fits bill, he can do wilder s image a hell of good now wilder lost unbeaten record

[daggum]

Yes, it's unlikely wilder feels need to prove his critics wrong. But we can only hope and wish wilder had a desire to make up and amends for his loss to fury by fighting and beating someone half decent.
Zhang fits bill, he can do wilder s image a hell of good now wilder lost unbeaten record

wilder is the classic bully. he fought some mentally challenged 147 pound kid for free but he wont fight joshua for 100 million dollars. if joshua had insulted him he would have said thank you sir i agree, when some little kid does it he wants to bash him up.

[billeau2]

Sounds like a lot of hate from people who won't get in the ring themselves. Is Wilder a paragon of skill? No. But if it were so easy to knock out that many guys because the heavyweight division sucks, why hasn't anyone else done it? Why does he have more title defenses at heavyweight than Fury, AJ, Ruiz, and Usyk combined? If it's so easy to knock Ortiz out, which he's done twice, why couldn't Ruiz do it? Ortiz has only ever been knocked out by Wilder. On the flip side, if Fury is so great and Wilder sucks so much, why was Wilder able to put him on the canvas 4 times? It's not like the other guys have fought that many more top opponents, as Willow the Wisp was pointing out the other day.

It's easy to sit on your couch and hate on a guy that's accomplished more than you.

The need to hate on Wilder has no bounds ... When he could get fights it was inititally based on people diminishing Ortiz. Now it is based on the chronic lack of activity in the division.

[billeau2]

oh really i own the ring mag now? list the top 10 fighters according to the ring that he has beaten. you will find a whole 2(one by ko). and you are dead on right. im not going to change anyones opinion on wilder. they are ****** as sh-it and they will continue to say wilder ko's everyone except fury even though his resume is dog crap

****** as s-h-i-t is you! Your idiocy used to revolve around diminishing Ortiz to make Wilder look worse... You now sing a different tune! Same ****** argument, different day.

Lol Joshua scaring Wilder! Most boxing people who have any concern for AJ hope he does not fight Wilder lol. AJ has shown the mental fragility that would guarantee a fight like Tyson versus Golata! with AJ taking the place of the foul pole twitching on the canvas... same argument back then... "Golata is a solid boxer, will beat Tyson" just like AJ will outbox Wilder... lol.

[Outwest Exp 355]

oh really i own the ring mag now? list the top 10 fighters according to the ring that he has beaten. you will find a whole 2(one by ko). and you are dead on right. im not going to change anyones opinion on wilder. they are ****** as sh-it and they will continue to say wilder ko's everyone except fury even though his resume is dog crap

You want some cheese to go with that white?

[Legends456]

Wilder has 2 groups of fan boys.


1. Blacks who are clinging to their last hope
2. Fury fanboys who are desperately trying to elevate Wilder to enhance Fury's legacy



the fact is Wilder has not beat anybody worth a damn. He's a b-level fighter.

I really enjoyed their trilogy, particularly the very competitive third fight. However, during that fight, I had this repeating thought: “these guys are good and fun to watch, but neither of them could hang with Ali”.

[HeadShots]

I really enjoyed their trilogy, particularly the very competitive third fight. However, during that fight, I had this repeating thought: “these guys are good and fun to watch, but neither of them could hang with Ali”.

Ali at 220 lbs would get knocked out by Dubois in 2022. get with the times boomer

[Dr. Z]

He only beat Helenius in the last years.

People talk about guys being overrated, but people like Joyce, Zhang, parker actually fight somebody. Wilder is considered elite because he was able to get KO`d by Fury twice? I guess Chisora is also elite than.

It is very unfair to the other guys that casuals still consider Wilder being elite for...doing nothing.

Lets see if Wilder beats Ruiz, Zhang, parker, Jared...somebody ranked. Than we can talk.

He not. He is a chinny, piped leg 37 year old has been. His win vs a contender under 34 is ..... well like never.

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[bigtyivier2k2]

was he ever elite though? his resume is pretty terrible. its been 8 years now and hes beaten 2 top 10 fighters.

And Fury only beat him and an old Klit in the most boring heavyweight fight of all time